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Giant bacterium carries thousands of genomes - Why does it bother?
Nature News ^ | 8 May 2008 | Heidi Ledford

Posted on 05/10/2008 7:50:45 AM PDT by neverdem

It seems like a peculiar case of genomic overkill: a single-celled bacterium has been found that keeps tens of thousands of copies of its genome. The finding sets a record for most genomes per cell, but also poses an obvious question: what could be the advantage of stashing away as much as 200,000 copies of your genome?

The number of genome copies in each cell varies by species. Many bacteria have only one copy; most cells in the human body contain two. Plants are notorious for being genomically promiscuous, picking up extra genomes then losing them again in a cycle that can occur repeatedly in a plant's evolutionary history. "You may think that as a blueprint of life, the genome might be very stable in size," says Sally Otto, an evolutionary biologist at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, Canada. "So it is really quite remarkable that organisms vary so widely in the number of genome copies they have."

EpulopisciumMore genomes than any predator would want to swallow
Esther Angert

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: crevo; epulopiscium; freepun; genetics; godsgravesglyphs; microbioloy; science
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1 posted on 05/10/2008 7:50:45 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; Battle Axe

micro ping


2 posted on 05/10/2008 7:52:57 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

Using a chain of deduction, we might assume that there is a reason for doing this. For example, I would be interested to know how this bacteria behaves in the presence of ionizing radiation.

One theory might be that it was more than usually resistant. But in turn, this raises a second question: just because it has lots of copies of its genome, can it use them?

That is, can it swap out a defective genome for a working one, or use a copy for error correction?


3 posted on 05/10/2008 8:02:03 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: neverdem
Giant bacterium carries thousands of genomes - Why does it bother?

Why I rarely read (fiction) novels.
Actual history/reality/science makes for much more incredible reading.
4 posted on 05/10/2008 8:05:32 AM PDT by VOA
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The bacterium seems a lot like my dear departed mother who was a child of the depression and WWII and couldn’t bring herself to throw any thing away.


5 posted on 05/10/2008 8:05:36 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
"That is, can it swap out a defective genome for a working one, or use a copy for error correction?"

Good point.

This is consistent with a model that says that the cell controls genome expression and not the other way around.

Evidence that the chicken came first.

6 posted on 05/10/2008 8:12:51 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: neverdem
Angert suspects that Epulopiscium ’s extravagant collection of genomes may be a way for it to reap the benefits of size without the drawbacks of starvation. She hypothesizes that the genomes are arrayed just beneath Epulopiscium ’s cell membrane. This arrangement means that the cell could respond to nutrients and other environmental molecules without waiting for them to diffuse throughout the cell. “If you waited [were in the center of a cell and had to wait] for an environmental signal to get to you, relying solely on diffusion, it would take forever,” says Anger. “It would be really unreliable. This opens up that door of allowing the cell to get big and not allowing diffusion to limit its volume.”

For the science bashers, this is called a hypothesis, not a guess.

The big difference is that a hypothesis will be tested against observed facts. Scientists do not have the luxury of saying everything they read in some old book is unquestionable truth, they have to winkle out every fact from actually looking at reality.

Usually the first hypothesis is wrong. Each turn of the crank gathers more data, and allows more accurate hypothesis to evolve to fit the real world data.

7 posted on 05/10/2008 8:13:09 AM PDT by null and void (My brain is a sieve, and Aratosthenes is nowhere to be found. ~ Stolen from Darksheare...)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

It’s the Michael Moore of bacterium.
“ For example, I would be interested to know how this bacteria behaves in the presence of cheeseburgers.


8 posted on 05/10/2008 8:16:09 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: neverdem
Here's a guess, not quite an hypothesis. The bacterium is testing out an unsuccessful mutation. It will prove to be no advantage, maybe. There might be some advantage in which case it will survive or even thrive.

Maybe

9 posted on 05/10/2008 8:17:24 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: null and void
"Scientists do not have the luxury of saying everything they read in some old book is unquestionable truth, they have to winkle out every fact from actually looking at reality. Usually the first hypothesis is wrong. Each turn of the crank gathers more data, and allows more accurate hypothesis to evolve to fit the real world data."

Translation: "We get to make it up as we go along and you don't. So Nyah."

10 posted on 05/10/2008 8:28:25 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
This is consistent with a model that says that the cell controls genome expression and not the other way around.

I agree, the cell, with all of its machinery, golgi bodies, ribosomes, etc. can determine on its own what is needed for healthy protein and poly-peptide production. This, however, raises another question-if the bacteria can do self maintenance, how can we get our cells to do it?

11 posted on 05/10/2008 8:30:29 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: neverdem
Plants are notorious for being genomically promiscuous, picking up extra genomes then losing them again in a cycle that can occur repeatedly in a plant's evolutionary history.

Whores.

12 posted on 05/10/2008 8:31:44 AM PDT by xjcsa (Has anyone seen my cornballer?)
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To: VOA
Why I rarely read (fiction) novels.
Actual history/reality/science makes for much more incredible reading.


Exactly!
13 posted on 05/10/2008 8:34:35 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: GourmetDan

Good morning!

I warmed up the thread for you...


14 posted on 05/10/2008 8:37:55 AM PDT by null and void (My brain is a sieve, and Aratosthenes is nowhere to be found. ~ Stolen from Darksheare...)
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To: neverdem
Epulopiscium, a gargantuan bacterium that lives in the intestines of unicornfish, contains up to 200,000 copies

Reason? Greed?

15 posted on 05/10/2008 8:38:32 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's still unclear what impact global warming will have on vertical wind shear)
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To: null and void
For the science bashers, this is called a hypothesis, not a guess.

Science bashers are unable to comprehend even such a simple sentence.

16 posted on 05/10/2008 8:55:23 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (OVERPRODUCTION......... one of the top five worries for American farmers.)
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To: null and void
"Good morning! I warmed up the thread for you..."

Yeah, Christian-bashing is always acceptable...

17 posted on 05/10/2008 8:57:09 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: neverdem

“How do it know?”


18 posted on 05/10/2008 8:58:06 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Balding_Eagle
Science bashers are unable to comprehend even such a simple sentence.

That's your hypothesis. Prove it.

19 posted on 05/10/2008 9:04:12 AM PDT by null and void (My brain is a sieve, and Aratosthenes is nowhere to be found. ~ Stolen from Darksheare...)
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To: GourmetDan; Balding_Eagle

BE? Never mind.


20 posted on 05/10/2008 9:05:23 AM PDT by null and void (My brain is a sieve, and Aratosthenes is nowhere to be found. ~ Stolen from Darksheare...)
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