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Oldest hominid discovered is 7 million years old: study
Yahoo News ^ | 2-27-08

Posted on 02/28/2008 4:21:27 AM PST by Renfield

CHICAGO (AFP) - French fossil hunters have pinned down the age of Toumai, which they contend is the remains of the earliest human ever found, at between 6.8 and 7.2 million years old.

The fossil was discovered in the Chadian desert in 2001 and an intense debate ensued over whether the nearly complete cranium, pieces of jawbone and teeth belonged to one of our earliest ancestors.

Critics said that Toumai's cranium was too squashed to be that of a hominid -- it did not have the brain capacity that gives humans primacy -- and its small size indicated a creature of no more than 120 centimetres (four feet) in height, about the size of a walking chimp.

In short, they said, Toumai had no right to be baptised with French researcher Michel Brunet's hominid honorific of Sahelanthropus tchadensis -- he was simply a vulgar ape.

Toumai's supporters used 3D computer reconstructions to show that the structure of the cranium had clear differences from those of gorillas and chimps and indicates that Toumai was able to walk upright on two feet, something our primate cousins cannot do with ease.

If Toumai is truly an early human, that means that the evolutionary split between apes and humans occurred far earlier than previously thought.

And pinning down his age is key to redrawing the evolutionary map.

"The radiochronological data concerning Sahelanthropus tchadensis ... is an important cornerstone both for establishing the earliest stages of hominid evolution and for new calibrations of the molecular clock," Brunet wrote in a study which will appear in the March 4 edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

"Thus, Sahelanthropus tchadensis testifies that the last divergence between chimps and humans is certainly not much more recent than 8 Ma (million years ago.)"

Toumai also probably lived "very close in time to this divergence contrary to the unlikely 'provocative explanation,' which recently suggested a 'possible hybridization in the human-chimp lineage before finally separating less than 6.3 (million years ago)," the authors concluded.

If Toumai -- the name means "hope of life" in the local Goran language -- is accepted as a human, the implications are profound.

The fossil was found some 2,500 kilometers (1,500 miles) west of the Great Rift Valley. If that is still seen as humankind's ancestral home, it implies the early hominids ranged far wider from East Africa, and far earlier, than previously thought.

The discovery also implies hominids evolved quickly from apes after they split from a common primate ancestry.

Hominids are considered the forerunners of anatomically modern humans, who appeared on the scene about 200,000 years ago.

Still unclear, though, is the exact line of genealogy from these small, rather ape-like creatures to the rise of the powerfully-brained Homo sapiens.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: anthropology; bonobo; bonobos; chimpanzee; chimpanzees; fossils; godsgravesglyphs; hominids; hominins; paleoanthropology; paleontology; primatology
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To: Renfield

Hopefully more examples will turn up.


21 posted on 02/28/2008 6:02:23 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Migraine

They more than like used K-Ar aging of the dirt right on it to roughly determine the age. K-Ar dating has a greater age rage the C-14. There are also other means, such as Uranium-lead dating, which can be fairly accurate to 4.5 billion years.


22 posted on 02/28/2008 6:14:27 AM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Grut
I'd never heard of a bonobo until I saw an episode of NOVA last week. A very interesting creature indeed. I would encourage anyone interested in this subject to check it out.
23 posted on 02/28/2008 6:15:36 AM PST by BubbaBasher (It's time to change the changes we've been changing and hope for more hope!)
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To: Renfield

Carbon date Bob Byrd. I’m just sayin’.


24 posted on 02/28/2008 6:15:53 AM PST by RichInOC (...William Frank Buckley, Jr. 11/24/25-2/27/08, R.I.P.)
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To: Migraine
didn't think radioisotope decay rates worked much beyond about 60,000 years. How does one infer 7 million from this kind of data? Just curious.

There are a couple of dozen different radioisotopes that can be used in dating. The effective range of each depends on the half-life.

Radiocarbon has a half-life of 5,730 years, and thus has a maximum effective range of about 50,000 years. (They are working on counting methods to extend this, but it won't be extended too far.)

Other radioisotopes have far longer half-lives, and are suited for dating objects of far greater antiquity.

Here is a good link:

Radiometric Dating: A Christian Perspective by Dr. Roger C. Wiens.

25 posted on 02/28/2008 6:25:24 AM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Migraine

I just looked and I guess they used Be-10/Be-9 dating, which doesnt make sense ince it has a shorter life than the time period used. But I am no expert in this sort of dating.


26 posted on 02/28/2008 6:28:12 AM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: webstersII
“Toumai’s supporters used 3D computer reconstructions to show that the structure of the cranium had clear differences from those of gorillas and chimps and indicates that Toumai was able to walk upright on two feet”

Yeah, right. They can tell all that from the structure of the brain.

Let’s see the rest of the skeleton and then maybe it can be determined whether it walked upright or not.

Upright posture can be inferred from the location of the foramen magnum (though which the spinal cord passes).

In four-legged critters it is near the back of the skull. In critters that walk upright it is at the bottom. Take a look at a cat or dog vs. a human and you will see how this works.

27 posted on 02/28/2008 6:28:42 AM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: aft_lizard
I just looked and I guess they used Be-10/Be-9 dating, which doesnt make sense ince it has a shorter life than the time period used. But I am no expert in this sort of dating.

See the article I linked to in post #25.

Radiometric dating works to many multiples of the half-life. For example, radiocarbon dating works back to nine or ten half-lives. I assume it is the same for the radioisotope used here.

28 posted on 02/28/2008 6:53:34 AM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

I quickly misread it earlier, I thought it said it was accurate to 1.5 million years, not that its half-life was just 1.5 million. No morning coffee effect yet, soon though soon.


29 posted on 02/28/2008 7:01:22 AM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Grut
I dunno. If you look at a bonobo's eyes it sure looks like somebody's home.

Actually, when I look into my dog's eyes I see there's somebody home too. I guess it comes down to what really makes us human. Besides a soul, that is.

30 posted on 02/28/2008 7:37:16 AM PST by scan59 (Let consumers dictate market policies. Government just gets in the way.)
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31 posted on 02/28/2008 9:36:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________________Profile updated Tuesday, February 19, 2008)
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32 posted on 02/28/2008 9:38:11 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________________Profile updated Tuesday, February 19, 2008)
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To: equaviator; deathrace2000

Either way, it voted in the last four presidential elections.


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To: BubbaBasher

Most of the show-biz chimps are Bonobos. The regular chimps are too big and powerful to trust around actors.


34 posted on 02/28/2008 2:00:14 PM PST by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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