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Jesus Tomb Case Closed for Most Scholars (It's NOT His Tomb).
Christian Post ^ | Jan. 24,2008 | Katherine T. Phan

Posted on 01/30/2008 4:52:14 PM PST by SeekAndFind

A group of scholars posted a statement rejecting the identification of the Talpiot tomb as belonging to Jesus, a week after a conference in Jerusalem revisited evidence on claims presented in the controversial film "Lost Tomb of Jesus."

In a statement posted Monday on the Duke University Religion Department's blog site, key figures in the discovery of the 1980 Talpoit tomb and other experts who attended the conference agreed that most scholars in attendance rejected the claims that the tomb belonged to the author of Christianity, despite the consensus being represented by the media as otherwise.

"We wish to protest the misrepresentation of the conference proceedings in the media, and make it clear that the majority of scholars in attendance – including all of the archaeologists and epigraphers who presented papers relating to the tomb – either reject the identification of the Talpiot tomb as belonging to Jesus’ family or find this claim highly unlikely," reads the statement.

Among the scholars who signed the statement were Shimon Gibson of the University of North Carolina at Charlotte, an archaeologist who participated in the dig, Amos Kloner, who supervised the dig, and Duke University professor Eric Meyers, who was among the five panelists in the concluding session.

"It's very unfortunate that a serious meeting of scholars on Jewish belief of the afterlife got so mixed up with media spin," Myers told The Christian Post on Tuesday.

The consensus by the scholars dealt a huge blow to claims made by “The Lost Tomb of Jesus" filmmakers, “Titanic” director James Cameron and Jewish investigative journalist Simcha Jacobovici.

In the film, Cameron and Jacobovici suggested that archaeologists had found the family tomb of Jesus Christ in Jerusalem, challenging most Christians’ belief in the bodily resurrection of Jesus from the dead. The duo went further to also suggest that Mary Magdalene was buried in the tomb, that she and Jesus were married, and that an ossuary labeled "Judah son of Jesus" belonged to their alleged son.

The experts – which included archaeologists, statisticians and experts in DNA, ceramics and ancient languages – arrived at their conclusion after five days of testimonies and presentations at last week's conference entitled, “Third Princeton Theological Seminary Symposium on Jewish Views of the Afterlife and Burial Practices in Second Temple Judaism: Evaluating the Talpiot Tomb in Context.”

Myers said he was "unalterably" and "unequivocally" opposed to the identification of the East Talpoit tomb as belonging to Jesus.

New Testament Language and Literature Professor James Charlesworth of Princeton Theological Seminary, the conference's organizer, also joined Myers and Gibson in the concluding panel to reject claims that the tomb belonged to Jesus.

While there was no formal vote on the matter, the professor said that virtually all the scholars at the conference held the same views.

Myers, who specializes in archaeology and the history of Second Temple, said there are two main reasons why he rejected the claims put forth by Cameron and Jacobovici.

The first dealt with the statistical analysis presented by Andrey Feuerverger, professor of Mathematics and Statistics at the University of Toronto. Feuerverger had calculated that there was a 1 in 600 chance that the particular cluster of names found on the Talpoit ossuaries would occur in one of the roughly 1,000 tombs discovered so far.

It wasn't the statistical process he used that flagged the analysis for Myers, but it was the Feuerverger information used to calculate those odds.

Most of that information centered around the reading of the inscriptions on the ossuaries which bore the names used in the analysis. One was interpreted to read "Mariemene e Mara" and in some early Christian texts was believed to refer to Mary Magdalene.

But epigraphers at the conference, however, contested the reading as "Mariemene e Mara" – a crucial part of the calculation.

Among them included Stephen Pfann, a biblical scholar at the University of the Holy Land in Jerusalem, who asserted at the conference and in earlier writings said the reading doesn't read "Mariamene" at all but instead "Mariame" and "kai Mara." According to a detailed article he published online last year, he said the ossuary housed the bones of two women, "Mary and Martha."

Citing inferences drawn by Camil Fuchs, head of Tel Aviv University's statistics department, Myers said there is almost no probability that the ossuary belonged to Mary Magdalene.

At the conference, an expert panel of scholars on the subject of Mary in the early church dismissed the link between "Mariamene" and Mary Magdelene. They also firmly rejected the suggestion that Mary Magdalene was married to Jesus and that they had a son.

Pfann also questioned whether the inscription, reportedly reading "Yeshua, the son of Joseph," could even be read.

"These are common names so it's impossible to equate them with familial relationships," commented Myers.

In addition to the problems associated the inscriptions and statistical analysis, Myers also pointed to holes in the analysis of the DNA taken from the bones found in the ossuaries.

Earlier reports indicated that the DNA taken from the bones of the two ossuaries were not related. But Christian theologians were quick to point out there was also no proof that the DNA belonged to Jesus.

In the most recent report, the head of the DNA laboratory at Hebrew University said that the sampling was invalid and contaminated, thereby eliminating any inferences that could be drawn between the non-familial relationship of the bones.

"It was not even worth discussion. That should have closed the case," said Myers of the contaminated DNA.

Myers also denounced a sensationalized remark made by Ruth Gat, the widow of the archaeologists who discovered the Talpiot tomb.

Upon receiving a lifetime achievement award on behalf of Joseph Gat, Ruth Gat said that her late husband always thought the tomb he uncovered belonged to Jesus but never published his opinion from fear of anti-Semitism.

"It's ridiculous," said Myers. "He couldn't read the epigraphy – the study of ancient scripts. He was not a scholar; he was just a technical field archeologist."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; holyland; jamescameron; jamesossuary; jerusalem; jesus; jesustomb; letshavejerusalem; simchajacobovici; talpiot; tomb
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1 posted on 01/30/2008 4:52:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

DUH


2 posted on 01/30/2008 4:55:45 PM PST by jwalburg (The climate will change, weather we like it or not)
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To: SeekAndFind

DUH!


3 posted on 01/30/2008 4:59:38 PM PST by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“..challenging most Christians’ belief in the bodily resurrection of Jesus from the dead.”

How often in the past 2000 years have attempts been made to disprove Jesus’ Resurrection? Guaranteed that there will be more to come.


4 posted on 01/30/2008 5:05:54 PM PST by 353FMG (Vote for the Person who will do the least damage to our country.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Films and TV shows like that always lose money, yet Hollywood continues to make them.


5 posted on 01/30/2008 5:06:22 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cameron is as much of a revisionist blowhard as Oliver Stone. His film ‘Titanic’ should have been titled ‘Titanic Lies.’


6 posted on 01/30/2008 5:07:36 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth ('Yellow is mellow, but brown goes down.' -- The Clinton campaign slogan for 2008)
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To: SeekAndFind

I commend the Jewish scholars who were honest and objective in reaching their decision, going against their natural bias against the resurrection of Christ.


7 posted on 01/30/2008 5:15:00 PM PST by sasportas
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To: Clintonfatigued

It’s not about profit or loss,it’s about pushing a certain mindset-an agenda.


8 posted on 01/30/2008 5:16:15 PM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
"Cameron is as much of a revisionist blowhard as Oliver Stone. His film ‘Titanic’ should have been titled ‘Titanic Lies.’"

Yeah but Leonardo DiCrappy-o dies in it, so it's worthy of an Oscar nod in my book.

9 posted on 01/30/2008 5:33:02 PM PST by Ignatz (Silence is golden...duct tape is silver.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We know where Jesus is, and He isn’t there.


10 posted on 01/30/2008 5:51:37 PM PST by wizr (Whether you are a Christian or not, fight for your God given freedoms.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Someone involved with that film spoke at Lunacon, a sci-fi convention in Rye, NY, last March. I listened politely and thought how ironic that he came to a sci-fi con to talk about his work. (Granted, there’s a lot of real science and tech talk at the con, too, but it still struck me as odd.)


11 posted on 01/30/2008 5:51:40 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Geek Squad -- if you're desperate and don't need a PC for over a month, we'll get around to it.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

That is because the purpose isn’t to make money, but to put doubt into the mind of people sitting on the fence. Satan doesn’t care how much it costs.


12 posted on 01/30/2008 5:53:32 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: 353FMG

All they have to do is read the Book of Acts Chapter 9. If it wasn’t the risen Christ that met Saul on the road to Damascus, then who was it that “forced” him to completely turn his life around?

Instead of a Christian hating zealot, he became Paul, the Apostle, a persecuted and jailed Christian, that brought Christ to us gentiles.


13 posted on 01/30/2008 5:57:29 PM PST by wizr (Whether you are a Christian or not, fight for your God given freedoms.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Amen!

Your tagline says it all!!

14 posted on 01/30/2008 5:58:37 PM PST by PROCON
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To: SeekAndFind
You don’t take flowers to an EMPTY TOMB...so for over 300 years it was not important WHERE the tomb was. Church History has it at the Church of the Holy Sephluchre. There is Gordon’s Tomb which fits the description. But a Resurrected Lord is NOT in the grave he was only there for 3 days. So we need to look forward and not back to where was he buried. Where is He now? And the answer to that is in heaven and in the heart’s of the believers.
Freegards,
Lex
15 posted on 01/30/2008 6:03:50 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: SeekAndFind

The tomb was empty and that is the real story.


16 posted on 01/30/2008 6:04:59 PM PST by bmwcyle (What is the American voter thinking?)
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To: 353FMG

It’s a big time thing with the Moslems ~ just about every 4th or 5th sermon at Friday prayers is about their claims that Jesus didn’t rise from the dead.


17 posted on 01/30/2008 6:21:57 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: bmwcyle

AMEN!!


18 posted on 01/30/2008 6:47:04 PM PST by two-edged-sword
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To: SeekAndFind

btt


19 posted on 01/30/2008 6:58:36 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: SeekAndFind
...dealt a huge blow to claims made by “The Lost Tomb of Jesus" filmmakers, “Titanic” director James Cameron and Jewish investigative journalist Simcha Jacobovici.

Nonsense. They've long since moved on to more money making projects and are likely laughing their ways to the bank.

20 posted on 01/30/2008 7:39:14 PM PST by onedoug
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