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Iowa Caucuses - Results Live Thread
January 3, 2008 | xjcsa

Posted on 01/03/2008 12:08:45 PM PST by xjcsa

Edited on 01/03/2008 7:30:11 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

I thought the time was right to start up a live thread for results and comments about tonight, so here we are!



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2008; biden; caucus; caucuses; dodd; edwards; elections; fred; fredthompson; giuliani; gravel; hillary; huckabee; hunter; ia2008; iowa; keyes; kucinich; livethread; mccain; mikehuckabee; obama; paul; richardson; romney; thompson
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To: chad_in_georgia
Listening to him give his speech, it's obvious why he attracted more voters than Hillary.

Hillary sounds like an old librarian talking to a bunch of grade schoolers.

2,601 posted on 01/03/2008 8:17:30 PM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: reflecting
Only God knows the heart. I am telling you what I observe about Huckabee's lack of character. The Holy Spirit brings people to Christ.

How about the people Jim Bakker pastored before he repented and REALLY came to Christ in prison? Are they Christians? Yes, if they honor him as Savior and Lord. God can use anyone to work his purposes.

2,602 posted on 01/03/2008 8:17:33 PM PST by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: Hoodlum91

Just pray for deliverance from all those “firey darts” that the Bible talks about... :-)


2,603 posted on 01/03/2008 8:17:50 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1947866/posts?page=2559#2559

This summarizes my thoughts as well about Huck.


2,604 posted on 01/03/2008 8:17:53 PM PST by RockinRight (Huck Supporters: Being Christian doesn't make one an automatic conservative. Far from it.)
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2,605 posted on 01/03/2008 8:18:05 PM PST by CTSeditor
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To: Repeal 16-17

So did Alan Keyes get any votes? Presumably it was less than Duncan Hunter’s 4/10ths of a percent, since he doesn’t show up on the Politico map...


2,606 posted on 01/03/2008 8:18:11 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: reflecting
Only God knows the heart. I am telling you what I observe about Huckabee's lack of character. The Holy Spirit brings people to Christ.

How about the people Jim Bakker pastored before he repented and REALLY came to Christ in prison? Are they Christians? Yes, if they honor him as Savior and Lord. God can use anyone to work his purposes.

2,607 posted on 01/03/2008 8:18:17 PM PST by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: broncobilly

Sorry about your bad experiences with flakey destructive pseudo counterfeit “Christianity” pretending to be otherwise.

RELATIONSHIP with God beats ANY system of man—even a system of man built on The Truth of The Bible.

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In terms of Walter Martin—he was the real authentic Christian of brilliant mind and wholeale high level integrity.

Is grasp of facts; his memory of facts; his research about the facts as well as his connections within a long list of cults was unparalleled.

I think in his later years, he erred in some of his caustic comments against folks who were also flawed but doing an authentic work for God. That may have hastened his graduation from this life.

In any case, THE KINGDOM OF THE CULTS is an excellent reference and resource. Asserting otherwise is simply out of step with the facts, the truth.


2,608 posted on 01/03/2008 8:18:24 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: xjcsa
Huckabee is Clinton-right.....he's the same snake oil salesman, phoney homey, bogus bible beater, rock and roll wannabe, warm and fuzzy candidate from Arkansas that the left gave us in the days before Hillary.

We're really, really, in a hole.

PS: Obama just might be dangerous - I just listened to his 'I have seen the mountain' speech.

2,609 posted on 01/03/2008 8:18:50 PM PST by norton (deep down inside you know that Fred is your second choice - and there isn't a third choice)
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To: unspun

Obama is on a roll now. He’s going to kill the wicked witch from the East. She’s toast.


2,610 posted on 01/03/2008 8:18:57 PM PST by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: rightinthemiddle

I agree. Seems we got a lot of folks interested in having Bozo the Clown/Brad Pitt/Robin Williams to be their leader. A few years, perhaps a decade from now, someone like Britney Spears/Paris Hilton will be leading this country... Point being, substance, message, values, morales, and conservative values alike mean nothing.


2,611 posted on 01/03/2008 8:19:08 PM PST by commonguymd (Move it to the right -Vote for Fred. Filler' up at www.fred08.com)
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To: imd102

Fred is a pure grassroots campaign, I expect his cash pool to rise.


2,612 posted on 01/03/2008 8:19:12 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Star Traveler
OK, if you want to change your original accusation that the GOP somehow ignores, disses, or does not take evangelicals seriously?

The bogus charge of being a “step-child” has never been true, since evangelicals always get their man.

If the men you chosen over the years have not perform to your standards, maybe you should try changing your standards to one of choosing a candidate that has a record of accomplishment and results. One who has the personality to actually produce.

Maybe he is not a saint, has not lived a vicefree life, and has not been a social activist, but would not work against you.

It could be that evangelicals are looking in all the wrong places, you could be surprised.

Because so far, government has grown and grown and grown, our citizens are increasingly dependent on government literally and emotionally.

And it is the prolife antigay Republican party that have allowed this to happen, along with the Dims.

Maybe we should elect someone who has the steel to take on the entrenched government bureaucracies, who has done it before, is cunning and ruthless, and an SOB who hates the MSM and the Dims.

2,613 posted on 01/03/2008 8:19:16 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Gator113

Obama’s I h-have a dream speech.


2,614 posted on 01/03/2008 8:19:25 PM PST by maggief
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To: CTSeditor

1) “Democratic” is an adjective (Democrat is the right term)

2) This is a carry the hate-Bush momentum into the ‘08 election ad


2,615 posted on 01/03/2008 8:19:35 PM PST by Eddie01
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To: Petronski
Romney is the only Republican loser of the night. It’s hard to see how he comes back from this.

Every business analyst & investor counselor knows that if you invest more than all your competitors put together & you don't gain a single return on your investment, that's not exactly a celebratory situation!

2,616 posted on 01/03/2008 8:19:49 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Cyropaedia
“Listening to him give his speech, it’s obvious why he attracted more voters than Hillary.”

I had to turn him off - he makes me nauseous. Or, it could have been the Red Lobster meal I had earlier.

2,617 posted on 01/03/2008 8:20:09 PM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: TornadoAlley3
"Obama thinks he is MLK."

Yep, now we have two preachers.

2,618 posted on 01/03/2008 8:20:10 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Blue Highway
Greta Van Sustenance talked about the surge of McCain and he is in 4th place.

I'm no fan of GVS, or Sen. McCain, or FNC, but to be fair...

Sen. McCain has surged (and was in 3rd place in Iowa for a while). In the past two weeks, he has doubled his numbers in Iowa, while Sen. Thompson have barely budged. Only recently, Sen. McCain was counted out, and he's surging like mad in NH. Meanwhile, Sen. Thompson is sinking. (Sen. McCain and Sen. Thompson were equal in the beginning of October, but now McCain is at >30% and Thompson is at 2%). Meanwhile, Sen. Thompson's lead over Sen. McCain in South Carolina (his strong focus) has disappeared, and they are tied.

It's too bad Sen. Thompson took so long to get on track, losing his initial bump.

2,619 posted on 01/03/2008 8:20:12 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Repeal 16-17

“Even if you don’t like Huckabee, he’s infinitely better than Obama, Edwards, or Queen Hillary”

i think Huckabee is just as bad if not worst than the Dims. What he believes and what he does are two different things. I envision him folding on every important issue of the day to the Dims in Congress.

I see him nominating judges that the Dims like. I see him faltering worst than Jimmy Carter. And I see him dividing the Republican Party, and ultimately destroying it for a generation.

So in a way he is worst than any Dim.


2,620 posted on 01/03/2008 8:20:13 PM PST by Fox_Mulder77
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