Posted on 12/18/2007 7:41:42 AM PST by mnehring
YouTube video via Drudge- Ron Paul quote this morning on Fox and Friends- "When fascism comes it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. "
There might be a large backlash against Romney in Iowa because of his LDS ties, but the notion that Iowa Republicans-who care more about securing our borders than any group of voters-are going to fall in lock step behind Suckabee because forty percent of them are evangelicals is a bit absurd.
Watch as the Thompson numbers tick up in the wake of Rep. Steve King's endorsement.
*Waiting patiently for the Huckabust*
So says the lunatic.
Of course, that is his point. Those feigning outrage are obviously not those of us who have supported Ron Paul's consistent defense of the Founding Fathers' values.
Consider, George Washington was a devout Christian. Washinton at prayer in the snow of Valley Forge has long inspired Americans--as I am sure it inspires Ron Paul, a man of strong Faith, himself. But Washington never presented himself as former Governor Huckabee, wearing his "Faith" on his shoulder. As for the genuineness of that "Faith.?"
I would ordinarily be prepared to give a man the benefit of the doubt, but some of Huckabee's remarks on the subject of Hispanic immigration can only make one wonder. While his Faith reaches out to all mankind, it has never trashed the continuity of the family; the progression of the generations of a people--and yet Huckabee seems indifferent to the American posterity. That is not traditional, Biblically based Faith. And yet, as a public Office Holder, he has in the past sworn before God to honor the liberty of that American posterity.
It is also apparent that some here do not understand what the term Fascism actually refers to. Fascism was the "Third Force" in Europe, that sacrificed individual freedom for an Oligarchy combining nationalistic Socialists with Corporate interests, while turning away from the traditional Socialist attack on religion--i.e. toleration of religion, in form at least, but diminishing much of the traditional volition in many areas of the Faith driven individual--as, of course, the volition of all other individuals. America has always allowed maximum, reasonable, individual volition--and personal responsibility--in one's life, both personal and public.
William Flax
got your ping.
‘At least Ron Paul isn’t a campaign deadbeat. He pays his campaign bills.’
Fair point. I have no use for Keyes and his messiah complex.
Then why is it in Canada a hater of both the flag and Christianity?
Does no one realize that he’s quoting Huey Long?
And besides, fascism tends to come with the trappings of a very popular identity to appeal to the masses. In the U.S., it would be patriotism and Christianity. So hypothetically speaking, a fascist would try to appeal to the people with that. So he’s right in that.
I reject Ron Paul trying to stir up hysteria about any of the GOP candidates being fascists, though.
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
you are not going to be around here very long. I just get that gut feeling.
Its worth noting a kook site is citing this exchange as an example of Free Republic and Jim Robinson ‘purging’ anyone that doesn’t toe the line here at FR.
Nothing flimsy about taking donations from Truthers and Fascists. Nothing right about it either. It's disgusting.
Do you want the anti-sweatshop coalitions to be made aware that Mitt Romney, McCain, Clinton and others are accepting donations from slavers, and that both Bushes and both Clintons did the same?
Go for it, if that's what you want.
How about the fact that several states have Republican parties that are significantly by business owners who have over 50% illegal labor?
Disgusting. And I'm against it. Anything further you want to know?
Interesting, one thing about Paul is that he does not use common definitions of terms and so is often misunderstood. I don’t think he pays a lot of attention to the media or common culture. One example of this was in an interview where Paul was asked about what he meant by ‘neoconservatives’, a term which I always sort of shuddered due to its popular meaning/implication, especially its association with leftist ideology. Paul explained that his defintion of neoconservatism was simple conservatives who were domestic liberals who also believed in overseas intervention. In other words, they favored a big government approach at home and abroad. So, a fiscal conservative small government domestic person would not be considered a ‘neoconservative’ even if they supported basing our troops in the over 130 countries and 700 bases around the world. At least this was my understanding of it. However, Paul does need to be careful about what he says and how is perceived because not everyone is versed in his defintions of these things.
“Down here in the Redneck Rivera I have only seen one. A few bumper stickers (Non-Military). Pretty much non existent.”
Here in Arizona they are everywhere.
I think the modern day interpretation would be "when fascism comes here it'll be calling itself 'tolerance' or 'diversity.'"
I don't think the movement being addressed was necessarily patriotism, or Christianity, notwithstanding Huckabee's crass appeal to religious bigotry during this campaign.
You can see it easily enough by hitting the ‘biker bar’ section from the home page, and just looking back over the past couple of years.
Its rare for a week to go by without a ‘Jim Robinson Watch’ thread being put up, or a cut and paste of an exchange between two of the thousands of posters registered here.
What really makes it laughable is the site hostess there has stated she won’t allow her site to be used to attack other forums....(chuckle)
Yes, there are some direct comparisons, but the social conservatives are still driving this and willingly now. So much so, that the MSM has shifted to dirt digging.
The national polls are reflecting this with solid numbers, and that did not last long in the case of Howard Dean.
I have not seen any breakdown yet, but I doubt that when it occurs the numbers will shift to Thompson. He is now dead in the water.
See post #6. That answer's about as concise as it gets. :-)
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