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Ron Paul: 'When fascism comes it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross'. (Drudge's Title)
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Posted on 12/18/2007 7:41:42 AM PST by mnehring

YouTube video via Drudge- Ron Paul quote this morning on Fox and Friends- "When fascism comes it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. "


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To: Greg F
I know of only one religion which seeks peace in the world among all religions.

I know of only one religion which seeks to conquer the world with the point of a sword and eliminate all other religions..

And the ONLY peacemakers of whom I am aware wears the uniform of the American armed forces, or sits in the oval office.

301 posted on 12/18/2007 10:27:04 AM PST by elpadre
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To: Greg F
Atheism/secular humanism masked by an appeal to "tolerance," i.e. speech-suppression intended for the benefit of you know who.

The who being today's version of the NSDAP-wedded to "religion," and not the kind practiced by Christians or Jews, and heartily endorsed by the EU, UN and other anti-Western bodies.

I agree with Ron Paul's critique of the Huckabee campaign-his attempt to turn this race into a contest for Preacher-in-Chief is not only obnoxious, but disturbing-but as usual, his painful inarticulateness mangles the message he's trying to convey.

Plus, it is an apocryphal quote, which Lewis never uttered.

302 posted on 12/18/2007 10:27:52 AM PST by Reaganite1984
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To: Izzy Dunne
ROTFLMAO!

Quote of the day.

303 posted on 12/18/2007 10:30:32 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Reaganite1984
Plus, it is an apocryphal quote, which Lewis never uttered.

Doesn't matter. What matters is Ron Paul used it to smear Huckabee and, by extension, Christianity. It could have been uttered by Donald Duck and the facts would be the same.

It could have been a completely made up quote by Ron Paul and the facts would remain the same.

Paul is a fool. Paul was wrong for saying what he did. And you, and others, are looking foolish for defending him.

304 posted on 12/18/2007 10:32:38 AM PST by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: servantboy777
Dr. Keyes is in the race for one reason....to further the cause of conservatism by helping channel the dialog in areas most candidates attempt to avoid.

Examine his FEC official filings. They paint a very different picture. I think running for president is just his gig. Might be his gig for the next 20-30 years. What will you say to "Keyes 2020" when he's still in debt?

After a certain number of years, isn't it warranted to conclude that someone is a deadbeat on their debts? He owes a half-million he has no hope to pay off and yet he runs for office again. That's beyond all the money he paid in past campaigns to his own family members. Maybe back in 2000, you could still overlook it. But we're another eight years down the road now. At some point, the facts stack up and demand a conclusion about these serial Alan Keyes "campaigns".

At least Ron Paul isn't a campaign deadbeat. He pays his campaign bills.
305 posted on 12/18/2007 10:33:07 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: mnehrling

I hate to find myself in agreement with Dr. Demento, but I think he has a point. Fascism, and it’s brother Socialism, will adopt the symbols of it’s enemies to acquire power.

I think the anti-Christ will come in with a law degree and a cat. Yes, Hillary, I am talking about *you*.


306 posted on 12/18/2007 10:33:59 AM PST by Salo
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To: bcsco

“Doesn’t matter. What matters is Ron Paul used it to smear Huckabee and, by extension, Christianity. It could have been uttered by Donald Duck and the facts would be the same.”

No - he used it to attack Huckabee’s televangelistic campaign.

That’s it. It’s a charge that I think has some merit. The Huckabee ad was disgusting.


307 posted on 12/18/2007 10:35:08 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: Reaganite1984
Plus, it is an apocryphal quote, which Lewis never uttered.

True enough. The Sinclair Lewis Society says it gets at least one inquiry a week on this. It's like that one attributed to Ben Franklin but which was only in a book he published.

Even so, it hardly rises to Huck's level of claiming a theology degree he's never earned.
308 posted on 12/18/2007 10:37:14 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Salo
I don't believe Hillary has a cat anymore...


309 posted on 12/18/2007 10:39:04 AM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: XR7
Your posted photo is propaganda worthy of Joe Goebbels. Hitler did not bring fascism to Germany "carrying a cross" but as the head of a secular "national socialist" party. He openly spoke and wrote of his anti-Christian feelings and admired Islam. Here are two items to to counter the Leftist canards, concerning Fascists and Christinity, that you and Ron Paul have bought into
"Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers—already you see the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity!—then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so."

Adolf Hitler
Transcripts of Hitler's conversations made under the supervision of Martin Bormann (before end of War) published in the UK as Hitler's TABLE TALKS 1941-1944

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"Hitler usually concluded this historical speculation by remarking "You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japansese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"

Albert Speer, Nazi Germany’s Minister for Armaments
Inside the Third Reich, chapter 7

Obviously, history should have taught Ron Paul and his Leftist fellow travelers that Fascism would come to America promising Socialism and admiring Islam.
310 posted on 12/18/2007 10:39:39 AM PST by drpix
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To: darkwing104

I stand corrected. I still think Hillary is the anti-Christ, though.


311 posted on 12/18/2007 10:42:05 AM PST by Salo
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To: Salo
No argument here...


312 posted on 12/18/2007 10:43:12 AM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: VirginiaConstitutionalist
He's simply pointing out that when it comes, it will be on the back of a candidate hiding it under a veneer of patriotism and Christian values.

How about on the back of a candidate who claims to be a Constitutionalist, but who takes money from neo-Nazis?

Is there any chance at all that the neo-Nazis might be backing the fascist candidate?

313 posted on 12/18/2007 10:43:42 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
With all due respect, EEE has been around here since '99, that's going on nine years now. You have been here since last year.

Do not get me wrong, I am glad you are here if you are devoted to the constitutional and moral principles upon which our republic is based. EEE is an ally in that cause.

Paul has many very respectable and correct positions when it comes to governance under the constitution. I just strongly disagree with him on his foreign policy vision as regards the world we live in today where the Islamic radicals abjectly want to destroy us, and where other enemies are gathering strength and waiting in the wings (ie. Red China).

If we could stop the food fight for a few minutes and recognize those types of things, we can still come together on most issues that unite us, get through the primaries, and hopefully field a true conservatve candidate against the DNC at this critical juncture in history. In the end, I believe we will.

314 posted on 12/18/2007 10:43:45 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
STEVE DOOCY: Mike Huckabee has started running an ad in Iowa, where you’re at right now, also in New Hampshire and South Carolina, and in the back, it’s a windowpane but it also looks a lot like a cross. And, and, we had a guest a little while ago who said it was inappropriate to be using religion for political purposes. Congressman, I’m just curious what you think?

RON PAUL: Well, I haven’t thought about it completely, but you know, it reminds me of what Sinclair, uh, Lewis once said, he said ‘when Fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross.’ I don’t know whether that’s a fair assessment or not, but you wonder about using a cross like he is the only Christian, or implying that subtly. So, uh, I don’t think I would ever use anything like that.

DOOCY: So, uh, Congressm— you know, uh, Governor Huckabee is not selling fascism. He’s — simply sending out a Christmas message, anyway, just curious how you felt about that. Congressman, if you would sit right there in Des Moines just for a moment, we’re going to take a quick time out...

No - he used it to attack Huckabee’s televangelistic campaign.

That’s it. It’s a charge that I think has some merit. The Huckabee ad was disgusting.

He could have made any number of statements that attacked Huckabee without associating Christianity with Fascism. The fact he chose to use this phrase, whether apocryphal or not, while continuing to take money from known Fascists is despicable beyond belief.

You want to defend him? Fine. That tells me something, too.

315 posted on 12/18/2007 10:43:45 AM PST by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: EternalVigilance
The federal government is meant to operate under the direct authority of the sovereign citizens of the United States, who, of course, if they're wise and want to continue in liberty, are to operate under the laws of their Sovereign Creator.

I've seen similar arguments used to tacitly equate heresy with treason.

316 posted on 12/18/2007 10:44:09 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: bcsco

“He could have made any number of statements that attacked Huckabee without associating Christianity with Fascism.”

I don’t see it that way. The charge is as empty as Dems claim that challenging their policies is “questioning their patriotism.”


317 posted on 12/18/2007 10:45:43 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: AuntB
Sense of The Congress resolutions aren't binding pieces of legislation.

Although, by the same token, they don't accomplish anything either.

I'm glad that you brought up this subject though, since the claim made by the Paulistas that their preferred candidate only votes for pieces of legislation that are consonant with the Constitution, or which do not increase the power of government authorities, is patent nonsense.

While in Congress he's done his share to spread the pork-or, since he's so deferent to the interests of Moslems, pastrami-throughout his district in the form of earmarks-although I don't believe that earmarks is an important issue in the broader budget debate, it does illustrate his hypocrisy-and has co-sponsored bills that do not meet his own absurd, minarchist definitions.

318 posted on 12/18/2007 10:46:16 AM PST by Reaganite1984
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
I don’t see it that way.

I'm not surprised.

319 posted on 12/18/2007 10:46:41 AM PST by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: dighton; Izzy Dunne; Larry Lucido
"When insanity comes, it’ll be towing a blimp and asking for money."

Izzy Dunne takes an early lead for One-Liner of the Week.

And a mighty fine one it is, too.

That one's going to be hard to beat.

Well done!

320 posted on 12/18/2007 10:47:20 AM PST by Allegra (Greetings from a kinder, gentler Iraq. God bless US and Coalition Forces.)
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