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You know, if we all lived in urban settings, trapped like rats in tiny shoe-box-sized apartments where the Elitists could keep track of all of us all, we all walked to work and shopping and we all just huddled together for warmth in leftist orgies every night, this wouldn't be a problem!

*SMIRK*

1 posted on 11/23/2007 6:19:00 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Gabz

A ‘Nanny State Good Morning’ to YOU! :)


2 posted on 11/23/2007 6:19:32 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: IncPen

Damn nanny staters wanting more control


3 posted on 11/23/2007 6:21:01 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

BBQ grills are next.


4 posted on 11/23/2007 6:26:38 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (If piece is the answer, Bill Clinton asked the question.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I've got news for the writers fuel numbers, heating oil is up about 18-20% already this year. I question the legality of passing such a law after the fact. I don't condone suing but I would in this case for damages to recover costs of purchase and installation. Reason being is I would bet this had to be inspected by code enforcement.
5 posted on 11/23/2007 6:27:53 AM PST by Racer1
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Wood is one of the dirtiest forms of heating and one of the worst for the environment. Some years ago, even Andy Rooney noticed that if everyone used wood heat, soon Vermont would look like Saudi Arabia.

The libertarian in me repels at regulation, but imagining that wood heat is environmentally friendly is self-delusion of the worst kind.


8 posted on 11/23/2007 6:33:06 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Does boiled wood taste as awful as boiled peanuts?


10 posted on 11/23/2007 6:35:23 AM PST by Tax-chick (Every committee wants to take over the world.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
My first reaction to this post was outrage.

Then I remembered the neighbor with the woodstove. A cheap Yankee, he learned he could save money on trash collection by burning his rubbish in it. PVC bottles made clouds of yellowish grey heavier than air smoke that contained phosgene.

He stopped doing it, before I could leave him some Special Firewood. :-)

So, like everything else, it depends. If someone is burning CCA treated lumber, etc., they need to be stopped immediately.

I did have friends, however, who had a wood-fired baseboard furnace. They saved a lot of money, and no neighbors minded the rustic smell at all. There was one funny thing however regarding low stack temperatures...I was there once, and there were funny snowflake-like things that were falling in the yard, and a roaring sound. I ran outdoors to see a blue flame coming from the chimney that looked a lot like an upside-down Shuttle Launch. Creosote chimney fire.

15 posted on 11/23/2007 6:52:01 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

17 posts and no one has gotten to the root of all this and put the blame where it belongs, at the feet of the enviro-nazis.

If the enviro-nazis hadn’t prevented the drilling of domestic oil, all this wouldn’t be occurring.


19 posted on 11/23/2007 7:06:36 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I lived in Texas back it the 80's and included in our property tax was a special tax on wood-burning fireplaces. It was about $600 per year.

That was enough incentive for us to convert it to gas and avoid the special fireplace tax.

20 posted on 11/23/2007 7:09:34 AM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I don’t know what they are referring to a small town in the article, but living close is not the place for the outdoor type wood heating appliance. On the other hand if city slickers want to move to the country they need to be aware of where they are moving. Here in the country we have wood smoke, farms and the smells associated with them, dust and pollen, thats just the way it is. I wonder about people that move out into the country and the first thing they do is start complaining. One more thing, funny how a party against over regulation wants to regulate all the time.
22 posted on 11/23/2007 7:10:51 AM PST by Racer1
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I live in rural TN and my neighbor has one of the wood burning boilers. His is pretty smokey at times but it doesn’t bother anybody because the houses are few and far apart. Everybody here uses wood burning stoves, including me. Mine is going right now. If you burn good seasoned wood the smoke is not normally a problem. It’s a cheap source of energy for us. We have 14 acres in trees and cut trees that are already down and dry.

I’m very allergic to cigarette smoke but wood smoke doesn’t bother me at all. I’ve only had two bad experiences with the wood burning stove, once when I burned wood that poison ivy had been growing on and once when I burned some Black Walnut.


24 posted on 11/23/2007 7:12:47 AM PST by Melinda in TN
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Eric Blair 2084

This will not end with OWB.
They will be going after Fireplaces, Wood Stoves & BBQ’s next.
It’s the natural progression of the nanny-state.

How do you like your steak?
Rare-boiled, Medium boiled or Well-done boiled?


25 posted on 11/23/2007 7:13:54 AM PST by libertarian27 (Land of the Fee, Home of the Shamed)
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"We're not hillbillies or trashy people. We're educated people who did our homework before we made our purchase, and we made it a point to operate it very conscientiously..."

Apparently, it is still quite alright to stereotype and malign hillbillies and trashy people, without raising so much as an eyebrow from the reporter or anyone else.

26 posted on 11/23/2007 7:15:17 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
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27 posted on 11/23/2007 7:17:38 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I have one of these furnaces. It takes a lot of firewood, and regular trips outside to monitor and refill, but the cost of propane makes it worthwhile.

The smoke is awful. I have about 15 feet of smokestack, but some windless days, that is not enough.

I would NEVER use this furnace if there was a neighbor in the smoke path. For those who do not recognize their neighbor’s right for smokefree air around their home, then we need laws.


28 posted on 11/23/2007 7:18:59 AM PST by cmet
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

they are worse than hillbillies, they are noreasteners


31 posted on 11/23/2007 7:21:39 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

What happened to the catalytic combustors that used to be advertised for wood stoves?

Did they go by the boards?

Oh, and BTW, remember when hurricane Hugo hit and crossed S. Carolina and Western N. Carolina?
Authorities claimed there was enough downed trees to keep the pulp and lumber industry in raw material for 2 yrs.
Of course, environmentalists sqashed the gathering of most of it.

Just to point out the availability of a wasted resource.


42 posted on 11/23/2007 7:39:08 AM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"...Michigan offers a model ordinance that local governments can adopt in the absence of statewide standards."

I'll just bet they do...

52 posted on 11/23/2007 7:50:29 AM PST by Redbob
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
“My wife and I saved up for our dream house and this is the biggest investment of my life, and we can’t enjoy it,” Anderson said. “I’m not saying they should be banned everywhere, if they’re put up in a good place away from other houses, but why should we be smoked out?”

Because YOU are a moron Anderson. You should have checked out the regulations and your future neighbors BEFORE you bought your house. Stupid people like you should never be allowed to make the rules for everyone because you are too damn STUPID!!!!

55 posted on 11/23/2007 7:54:35 AM PST by monday
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’m sick of government being in every aspect of our lives, every thought, every word, every orifice.


65 posted on 11/23/2007 8:30:25 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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