Posted on 10/23/2007 2:44:10 PM PDT by NorthernRight
Edited on 10/23/2007 5:40:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
October 22, 2007
Fire officials are now stating that the Orange County Santiago fire was purposely set and there is speculation that other fires may have also been deliberate. See Interactive Map
Fire officials found three separate “points of origin,” all near the intersection of Silverado Canyon Road and Santiago Canyon Road. Two were on one side of the road, and the third was on the other. “Whoever did this knew what they were doing,” said Kris Concepcion, a fire authority battalion chief. Also, the fire traveled 3 miles in its first 20 minutes when it was ignited about 6 p.m. Sunday, he said.
We are NOT implying that the California fires are an act of terrorism however; the threat of pyro-terrorist attacks pose a significant risk to the U.S. and the fires in California and in Greece earlier this year should be a wake-up call.
In 2003 an FBI memo alerted law enforcement agencies that an al-Qaeda terrorist being held in detention had talked of masterminding a plot to set a series of devastating forest fires around the western United States.
It was reported that the detainee, who was not identified, said the plan involved three or four people setting wildfires using timed devices in Colorado, Montana, Utah and Wyoming that would detonate in forests and grasslands after the operatives had left the country.
“The detainee believed that significant damage to the U.S. economy would result and once it was realized that the fires were terrorist acts, U.S. citizens would put pressure on the U.S. government to change its policies,” the memo said.
How Can So Many Fires Be By Natural Causes ?
A Local News Radio talk show host in San Diego asked, “how can so many fires, in so many places, in such a short period of time, all be caused by natural causes”.
From USA Today in July of 2003
USA Today/Gannett publication article removed.
al-Qaeda Detainee Spoke of Fire Plot
As we have stated before. If you see anything suspicious, report it to law enforcement immediately.
UPDATE: Video - Officials say arson now suspected in Orange County Fire
UPDATE: From Los Angeles Fox News
“I’m sad to report this is an arson fire,” OCFA Chief Chip Prather announced at an early morning briefing. “There were three separate starts: two on one side of the road and one on the other, and obviously we are actively investigating that.”
Links - A number of blogs and websites have sprung up to report on the fires. We will provide links to a couple we’ve found.
National Interagency Fire Center
Live Local News Coverage Channel 10 San Diego
Written by News Admin · Filed Under Incident Reports
Thank you justa! There are also lots of munitions in the area. We have a number of friends in the area and I am sick just thinking of all this. I am going back and forth between FREEP, SD County Emergency, and a local paper with a blog. I don’t know how to start a new thread, do you think it is needed?
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BTW - I did see the fire engulfing what appeared to be a main communication tower on top of a hill in Camp Pendleton. Wonder what that was for ?
Let’s hope it was old, outdated equipment.
“Rosa fire near Temecula 70 percent contained. The Rosa fire in Riverside County, Northwest of Temecula, has burned 411 acres and is 70 percent contained as of 10:00 p.m., according to Justin Scribner of the Perris Information Center. Investigators have determined the cause of the fire as arson. IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE CAUSE OF THE FIRE, CALL (800)633-2836”-Michael Donnelly, writer for North County Times
They have closed the 5 Freeway at Camp Pendleton. Embers crossing freeway lots of smoke. Apparently there are Marines still on the base and they are fighting the fire.
“From Incident 0046 Type: Media Information Location: Significant Incidents info as of:10/24/2007 12:51:14 AM I-5 IS NOW CLOSED IN BOTH DIRECTIONS DUE TO BACK FIRES GETTING OUT OF CONTROL AND BURNING ON BOTH SIDES OF I-5”-CHP website
“Apparently there are Marines still on the base and they are fighting the fire.”
Prayers like never before for our “First to Fighters”!
This has not been a good night. It would be nice if the news stations were AWAKE for this and not busy getting their beauty sleep!
Actually, probably a good thing. The sheeple might actually wake up while watching a fire approach a nuclear power plant. Nothing worse then stampeding sheeple.
It looks like the Horno Fire is the Fire that crossed to the west of the 5 freeway. That means it is about 4 miles south of the San Onofre Nuclear Power Plant.
CHP website has a correction posted at 1:07 AM...NB I-5 is closed at SR-76 and SB I-5 is closed at Basilone Rd.
How come all the fires seem to be targeting Conservative Counties?
Liberal pyromaniacs torching the forests, hoping for a disaster so they can blame Bush and the war in Iraq for deploying all the National Guards out of California, another Katrina style, MSM con job?
“..The sheeple might actually wake up while watching a fire approach a nuclear power plant..”
“Waaaaa, a fire is headed for the “Big Boobs”?
That basically means all public traffic is blocked from entering or traveling through the base area via the 5. Camp Pendleton is now off limits to civilians. The land to the west of the 5 freeway is narrow. They should be able to put up a good fight and stop the fire from getting into San Onofre from the South. There are a couple of small Barrack cities up in the north that they will also probably be trying to save. There are lighting backfires as a last resort.
I’m trying to maneuver my way through the California State website and find more info on the Pendleton fires. Sounds hopeful with the ocean helping out and all. It should make for a nice barrier.
Just read that the Gubermint has announced they are sending 19 military helicopters to help fight the fires early Wednesday morning. Would have loved to have had those...YESTERDAY!!!
With the partial moon we have tonight you might have been able to run them during the night. Perhaps firing off some arclights way out over the Pacific would have illuminated the area. Just got to watch out for those darn San Onofre power lines. There are miles of them.
I was just outside checking out that moon. It’s close to full. I’m no pilot, but don’t they fly missions at night during times of war?
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