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Archaeologists Find Ancient Tunnel Used By Jews To Escape Roman Conquest Of Jerusalem
IHT ^ | 9-9-2007 | AP

Posted on 09/09/2007 3:30:54 PM PDT by blam

Archeologists find ancient tunnel used by Jews to escape Roman conquest of Jerusalem

The Associated Press
Published: September 9, 2007

JERUSALEM: Israeli archeologists on Sunday said they've stumbled upon the site of one of the great dramatic scenes of the Roman sacking of Jerusalem 2,000 years ago: the subterranean drainage channel Jews used to escape from the city's Roman conquerors.

The ancient tunnel was dug beneath what would become the main road of Jerusalem in the days of the second biblical Temple, which the Romans destroyed in the year 70, the dig's directors, archaeology Professor Ronny Reich of the University of Haifa and Eli Shukron of the Israel Antiquities Authority, told a news conference.

The channel was buried beneath the rubble of the sacking, and the parts that have been exposed since it was discovered two weeks ago have been preserved intact.

The walls — ashlar stones one meter (3 feet) deep — reach a height of 3 meters (10 feet) in some places and are covered by heavy stone slabs that were the main road's paving stones, Shukron said. Several manholes are visible, and portions of the original plastering remain, he said.

Pottery sherds, vessel fragments and coins from the end of the Second Temple period were discovered inside the channel, attesting to its age, Reich said.

The discovery of the drainage channel was momentous in itself, a sign of how the city's rulers looked out for the welfare of their citizens by organizing a system that drained the rainfall and prevented flooding, Reich said.

The discovery "shows you planning on a grand scale, unlike other cities in the ancient Near East," said anthropologist Joe Zias, an expert in the Second Temple period who was not involved in the dig.

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ancient; archaeologists; archeology; biblicalarchaeology; godsgravesglyphs; israel; jerusalem; josephus; letshavejerusalem; romanempire; templemount; thejewishwar; theromanwar; tunnel
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To: zot

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21 posted on 09/09/2007 5:28:42 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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22 posted on 09/09/2007 5:30:04 PM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: vetvetdoug
"Josephus mentioned these in his writings."
 
Could you be more specific please?
 
I'd like to  read more, but the cock will crow again before I have the time to research the veracity of that remark.
 
Here below is one site that I'd consider perusing for info.
 
No disrespect intended, I just want to learn more. Thank You!
 
 
http://www.ccel.org/j/josephus/works/war-pref.htm

23 posted on 09/09/2007 5:40:05 PM PDT by Radix (Nothing else to do but raise eyebrows and wreak havoc on FR.com)
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To: mware

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24 posted on 09/09/2007 6:03:17 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: Radix
To the degree we have original Latin documents, Josephus should be, in his entirity, ON THE NET.

If your' Latin is up to date you should find the references in short order.

25 posted on 09/09/2007 6:52:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Radix
I remembered reading the history written by Josephus about the tribulations of the Jews while in church...we studied how Revelations integrated into the writings of Josephus. If my memory serves me correctly, and sometimes it doesn’t, he mentioned the escapes of the Jews and the tunnels and the hiding of the wealth...I cannot give you specific references and its been 30 years since I studied this in any depth.
26 posted on 09/09/2007 7:16:55 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Fitzcarraldo

” OK, so where’s the Ark? “

It’s probably in my basement. Everything else seems to be.


27 posted on 09/09/2007 7:40:43 PM PDT by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: mware
Wow, anyone read Joel Rosenberg's latest book???

I just finished reading ALL of his fictions and non fiction books. I signed up for his email list.

Joel also said that when he feels the End of Days is coming, he is moving himself and his family to Israel because that country will be the ONLY safe area in the entire world...

28 posted on 09/09/2007 7:45:15 PM PDT by John123 ("What good fortune for the governments that the people do not think" -- Adolf Hitler)
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To: John123

It is almost spooky the way his works are mirroring what has happened after he wrote about it.


29 posted on 09/09/2007 7:49:33 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: mware
It is somewhat similar to The Left Behind series.

Is that a series of biographies about Gore, Clinton and Kerry?

30 posted on 09/09/2007 8:20:21 PM PDT by rock58seg (Change Homeland Security to U. S. Security. It's time they remember what country to protect.)
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31 posted on 09/09/2007 9:05:06 PM PDT by Salem (What can men do against such reckless hate? ... Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them!)
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32 posted on 09/10/2007 4:13:22 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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33 posted on 09/10/2007 7:41:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, August 29, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: muawiyah

with apologies to the Monty Python bunch in Life of Brian:

Reg: What have the Romans ever given us?

All: City planning.

Reg: Ok, city planning but what sort?

All: Running water in Aqueducts. Yeak, and proper sewers. Without running water we’d be up to our arses in sewage.


34 posted on 09/10/2007 10:43:19 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill
Jerusalem was a city well before the Romans invaded.
The Romans and their quisling local rulers built cities, but these were primarily for non-Jewish colonizers, but built by Jews and on Jewish taxation.
35 posted on 09/10/2007 11:49:54 AM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: wildbill

Reg: What have the Romans ever done for us? They’ve bled us white, the b******s. They’ve taken everything we had, not just from us, from our fathers and from our fathers’ fathers.

Stan: And from our fathers’ fathers’ fathers.

Reg: Yes.

Stan: And from our fathers’ fathers’ fathers’ fathers.

Reg: All right, Stan. Don’t labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?

Xerxes: The aqueduct?

Reg: What?

Xerxes: The aqueduct.

Reg: Oh yeah, yeah they gave us that. Yeah. That’s true.

Masked Commando: And the sanitation!

Stan: Oh yes ... sanitation, Reg, you remember what the city used to be like.

Reg: All right, I’ll grant you that the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done ...

Matthias: And the roads ...

Reg: Well yes obviously the roads ... the roads go without saying. But apart from the aqueduct, the sanitation and the roads ...

Another Masked Commando: Irrigation ...

Other Masked Voices: Medicine ... Education ... Health

Reg: Yes ... all right, fair enough ...

Commando Nearer The Front: And the wine ...

General Audience: Oh yes! True!

Francis: Yeah. That’s something we’d really miss if the Romans left, Reg.

Masked Commando At Back: Public baths!

Stan: And it’s safe to walk in the streets at night now.

Francis: Yes, they certainly know how to keep order ... let’s face it, they’re the only ones who could in a place like this.

Reg: All right ... all right ... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order ... what have the Romans done for us?

Xerxes: Brought peace?

Reg: What!? Oh shut up!


36 posted on 09/10/2007 11:56:54 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: blam

Are there any photos of the tunnel and ist location relative to above-ground structures?


37 posted on 09/10/2007 12:22:55 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Turned into golden trinkets by Babylonian kings . . . remelted numerous times . . . probably in people’s teeth now.

Not the answer people want, but most likely answer.

Still holding out for the masons to have it.


38 posted on 09/10/2007 1:32:06 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Funniest movie I ever saw. Where did you find the complete dialogue?


39 posted on 09/10/2007 1:47:44 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill

Memory...

Nah, just Googled “What have the romans done for us” and found a transcript


40 posted on 09/10/2007 1:54:38 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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