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1 posted on 09/08/2007 7:00:53 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo
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How many kids does the Pope have?

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2 posted on 09/08/2007 7:01:46 AM PDT by jas3
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To: RckyRaCoCo

He is right. The Caucasian race is aborting itself out of existence.


3 posted on 09/08/2007 7:04:13 AM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

I had three kids in college at the same time....Wonder where the pope’s kids went??


4 posted on 09/08/2007 7:06:27 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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They can't afford to have children because of the taxes!

G8 Female Fertility Rates (Source: CIA World Factbook)

Children born per woman:

USA - 2.08

France - 1.85

UK - 1.66

Canada 1.61

Germany - 1.39

Japan - 1.39

Italy - 1.28

Russia - 1.27

5 posted on 09/08/2007 7:07:04 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("We have met the enemy and he is us." -Pogo)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

You no play the game, you no make the rules!


6 posted on 09/08/2007 7:08:01 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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The Pope is right. He is referencing Genesis 1:27-28!!

27 God created man in his image; in the divine image he created him; male and female he created them.
28
God blessed them, saying: "Be fertile and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it. Have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and all the living things that move on the earth."

17 posted on 09/08/2007 8:00:48 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Kids are expensive.

Perhaps if the Vatican offered to pay for all food, housing, schooling and medical payments...things would turn around quickly.


18 posted on 09/08/2007 8:02:42 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

The Pope misses the point.

The *reason* people do not have children is two-fold.

The first reason is that they do not have enough energy.
This is itself for two reasons.

The first the Pope can do something about, to ask Catholics to limit their sexual activity to making children instead of using it for recreation. Sex is very taxing on both men and women, and they can have more and stronger children if they do not waste their energy on endless “practice” for pleasure, with no intention of making children.

But the second reason that people do not have enough energy is government. Governments are convinced that having a powerful economy and high taxes is more important than having children. So governments encourage women to work instead of having children, then tax couples so much that women are working for free.

So the Pope should criticize government for both encouraging women to work and having taxes so high that women *have* to work, instead of having and raising children.

The *other* reason, again the fault of GOVERNMENT, not people, that the Pope should argue against, is that government demands more and more for children. A higher standard of living. More education. More material goods. Better behavior. In fact, government demands on parents for their children are endless.

But having children is already hard. For each and every additional demand placed on parents for their children, even little ones, more parents will decide to have fewer children, and many people will decide to have no children at all.

So this is one more thing the Pope can argue against: leaving parents alone to raise their children as they see fit.

Thus, the MAJORITY of the low birthrate problem is GOVERNMENT. And this it to who the Pope should direct the majority of his criticisms.

The Pope should call for women to leave the workplace and instead be homemakers raising children, unless they can neither marry nor have children. He should call on GOVERNMENT to LOWER TAXES for married couples and not worry about their sacred idols of “growth” and “productivity”.

And he should call on GOVERNMENT to leave parents alone unless the lives of their children are in danger, and to not pester them with endless demands “on behalf” of the children.

And then, last but least, the Pope could finally return to his theme of using sex for reproduction, not for entertainment. And less because it is “sinful”, than because parents need that energy for their children.


21 posted on 09/08/2007 8:09:07 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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enter the Table of Contents of the Catechism of the Catholic Church here
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
From the Catechism of the Catholic Church
(click on the book for the link.)
 
 
2399 The regulation of births represents one of the aspects of responsible fatherhood and motherhood. Legitimate intentions on the part of the spouses do not justify recourse to morally unacceptable means (for example, direct sterilization or contraception).

 

2370 Periodic continence, that is, the methods of birth regulation based on self-observation and the use of infertile periods, is in conformity with the objective criteria of morality. These methods respect the bodies of the spouses, encourage tenderness between them, and favor the education of an authentic freedom. In contrast, "every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible" is intrinsically evil:

Thus the innate language that expresses the total reciprocal self-giving of husband and wife is overlaid, through contraception, by an objectively contradictory language, namely, that of not giving oneself totally to the other. This leads not only to a positive refusal to be open to life but also to a falsification of the inner truth of conjugal love, which is called upon to give itself in personal totality. . . . The difference, both anthropological and moral, between contraception and recourse to the rhythm of the cycle . . . involves in the final analysis two irreconcilable concepts of the human person and of human sexuality.

27 posted on 09/08/2007 8:19:55 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Abortion isn’t the problem. The high cost of living is, taxes and so on. Plus, it’s more of a birth control issue than abortion.


36 posted on 09/08/2007 8:31:11 AM PDT by cyborg (Long Island Half Marathon finisher!)
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NO DISRESPECT TO THE POPE INTENDED BY THE FOLLOWING!!!!

Pope to Europe: "Go ye forth and fornicate"

I have said the same thing on many occasions but I think my meaning might differ from the Pope.

38 posted on 09/08/2007 8:32:32 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Islam or lawyers. Which one is lower on the food chain?)
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Title is wrong:

“Pope blasts Catholic Europeans for not having enough children”

There, that’s better. He doesn’t give a fig if the prorestants never have another kid! :)


56 posted on 09/08/2007 10:39:06 AM PDT by britemp
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Reminds me of what the Muslim Turk said a few years back

Turkish president Turgut Ozal has said:

“Don’t worry, we won’t go to war with Greece. In a few years’ time, Thrace will be empty and they will be begging us to settle it”

Fortunately the Christian Orthodox Church is doing something about it...by paying extra money to families to have a 3rd child


65 posted on 09/08/2007 11:03:59 AM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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Re: Pope blasts Europeans for not having enough children...

No! You a can no make a the rules... if you a don't a play a the game a!

69 posted on 09/08/2007 11:31:13 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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We made up for a lot of ‘em. Have 7 of ‘em. Don’t regret a second of it, either.


78 posted on 09/08/2007 12:33:04 PM PDT by RightOnline
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100 posted on 09/08/2007 3:30:47 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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It’s true. Between birth control, abortion, and recognition of homosexual relationships, Western society is driving itself to extinction. Only the U.S. and Israel are barely meeting replacement level. The third world and Muslims are reproducing at a high level, and they will fill the void.


113 posted on 09/08/2007 7:34:03 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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"We want everything for ourselves and place little trust in the future,"

That one sentence is so true of the USA also. Nothing troubles me more than what the government is leading our nation to do to future generations. Government is so deep in debt there is nary a hope future generations will realize anything but higher taxes.
114 posted on 09/09/2007 1:28:04 AM PDT by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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The Pope wants us to build our defenses against Islam. The muzzies intent to conquer Eurabia by just ourbreeding the rest of the European population.


133 posted on 09/11/2007 4:30:08 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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Having over done it in the Philippines and Mexico, he is correcting the error by ragging on Europe.


142 posted on 09/11/2007 12:28:33 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Hillary's color is yellow.....how appropriate)
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