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Why the GOP should welcome gays into the party
northjersey.com ^ | STEVE LONEGAN

Posted on 08/20/2007 10:30:08 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: Calpernia
Interesting isn’t it their images promote supposed love, love, love, and yet the message is hate.
21 posted on 08/20/2007 11:09:46 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
That is propaganda. Same way peace means surrender and rights means special privileges.
22 posted on 08/20/2007 11:12:20 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Coleus

Actually, I’d prefer they retreat back into their filthy perverted closet -—— where they clearly belong.


23 posted on 08/20/2007 11:12:59 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: JohnnyZ
Cut to the chase -- exactly which elements of the gay agenda do you suggest conservatives adopt?

Moisturize--moisturize--moisturize...

24 posted on 08/20/2007 11:15:36 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Calpernia

Good post, Cal


25 posted on 08/20/2007 11:15:43 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: Calpernia
That is propaganda. Same way peace means surrender and rights means special privileges.

The left has always relied upon propaganda to seduce/deceive its followers. Actually the method of operation has become quite centrist or as many claim mainstream these days. Some of the 'big' tent republicans will accept whatever is offered upon the big pie plate so long as their own social programs are funded.

26 posted on 08/20/2007 11:17:01 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Coleus
“Happiness derives its meaning from the Middle English hap, meaning “chance” or “luck.””

Thus we know that when our Christian founding fathers said “the pursuit of happiness” they were actually granting rights to homosexuals hoping to get lucky.

Leave it to the RINOs to find the Cornhole in the Constitution!

27 posted on 08/20/2007 11:17:38 PM PDT by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

I just vomited a little in my throat. Yuck.


28 posted on 08/20/2007 11:19:04 PM PDT by expatguy (New and Improved ! - Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: Just mythoughts

Communism was always about social programs. Social programs is dependency on the government. Communism is state-ownership.


29 posted on 08/20/2007 11:21:07 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Old_Mil

You get it. There is no so called income fixation/cutoff range for conservatives. It is rather a belief, a set of ideals that we strive to live by.

Please do not push the homosexual affluent agenga on me. Please do not push the idea that conservatism has a dollar figure.

Most of us work for a living and find class warfare to be repugnant.


30 posted on 08/20/2007 11:21:14 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: fieldmarshaldj
The only thing under big tents are a lot of hot air and clowns.

The center poles of the Republican tent have been: Pro-life, pro-freedom, pro-self-government (as opposed to big government), pro-national security/sovereignty, pro-family, pro-morality.

If they're allowed to pull out the center poles, the tent will be flat on the ground, and useless. And America will be a whole lot worse off.

31 posted on 08/20/2007 11:21:45 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: Coleus
I see that the RINOs are still trying to give the Republican party a RINOplasty.

Give it up , and get thee to a tent of thine own choosing.We will stay home.

32 posted on 08/20/2007 11:22:58 PM PDT by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: B4Ranch

It is amazing B4. I’ve posted this info many, many times. It usually kills a thread. You would think a site of true conservatives would take this and scream from the highest mountaintops.


33 posted on 08/20/2007 11:23:20 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
Communism was always about social programs. Social programs is dependency on the government. Communism is state-ownership.

Yes indeed. That is why it is hysterically funny to hear people claim to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Another of the accepted big tent ideas of recent political history.

34 posted on 08/20/2007 11:24:20 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Candor7

>>>We will stay home.

That would be ‘surrending’ to them.


35 posted on 08/20/2007 11:25:40 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Coleus

How would it be possible for the GOP to keep homosexuals out of the party?/sarc


36 posted on 08/20/2007 11:26:20 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (“I will be to this generation a second Mohammed" Joseph Smith)
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To: Just mythoughts

>>>That is why it is hysterically funny to hear people claim to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

Third major premise of Communism:

“There is no such thing as innate right or wrong. To lie, is that wrong? Not for the cause. To steal, is that wrong? Not for the cause. To kill, is that wrong? Not for the cause”

Lenin, V.I., ‘Selected Works’, Vol. IX, p. 477


37 posted on 08/20/2007 11:29:57 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: EternalVigilance

It’s one reason I’m shocked that Lonegan is going this direction. While “Conservatives” can try to reach out to gay voters on taxes or national security, we’re never going to see eye to eye on gay marriage or special rights (or the NAMBLA goal, a total abolition of same-sex age of consent laws). The funny thing is, gays had better pray the Communists or Mohammadan hordes never fully take over America, because they’ll be about the first ones to be gotten rid of. Not even their most hated opponents of fundamentalist Christians would go that far to get rid of them.


38 posted on 08/20/2007 11:31:38 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Calpernia
Also, needs to be recognized, homosexuality is the RED HERRING. This 'big tent' of homosexuals is the Log Cabin Republicans. The Log Cabin Republicans are affiliated with an organization started by a known communist and is affiliated with an anti war movement.


Power Point of this brochure can be downloaded here

Harry Hay was a Communist. An admitted communist. And he started Stonewall. And the Log Cabin Republicans are admitted political allies with Stonewall and the CPUSA as per the 2004 RNC anti war protests.

From NAMBLA:

 
 
HARRY HAY
and the
SPIRIT OF STONEWALL
New York, 1994
 

Harry made the following statement to a press conference on June 24, 1994, in the former Stonewall Inn on Sheridan Square in New York, site of the riots that launched the modern gay movement in June 1969. The press conference was called to announce the Spirit of Stonewall (SOS) contingent in the Stonewall 25 march two days later. It was moderated by SOS co-organizer and indefatigable activist Bill Dobbs. Other participants were Christine Martin, sex educator and documentary filmmaker; Glenda Orgasm (aka Glenn Belverio), drag queen activist and filmmaker; Scott O�Hara, editor and publisher of Steam magazine; Val Langmuir of Feminists Against Censorship (London); Julia Smedley, member of Stonewall Now; and Charley Shively of Fag Rag and professor of American Studies at the University of Massachusetts.

This statement was transcribed from a videotape of the press conference. A much shorter version�which omits any mention of NAMBLA or SOS, as well as the entire last half of the statement and the first paragraph�appeared in Radically Gay: Gay Liberation in the Words of Its Founder Harry Hay, ed. Will Roscoe (Boston: Beacon Press, 1996), p. 303. These omissions seem odd in view of the fact that Harry read from a written text. The truncated version also used capital letters for words such as �Brothers and Sisters� and �Queers,� a convention that is not followed here since this complete version is not based on a written text.


Sir Julian Huxley, the great English biologist, said, at the beginning of this century, no negative trait�and, as you know, a negative trait is one that does not reproduce itself�no negative trait ever appears, and reappears, millennia after millennia after millennia, unless it in some way serves the survival of that species. We gays and lesbians may embody, or have discovered, some things that you folks desperately need to know about.

I�m here today as a survivor, as well as the founder of the first ongoing gay organization in the United States, the Mattachine Society, first formed in 1950 in Los Angeles, and now, naturally, a member of SOS, the Spirit of Stonewall, because things we discovered about ourselves and principles we developed in 1950 to �53 are now being trashed by queers who don�t know their own history, all over the place.

We decided from the beginning that, first, because we were still discovering our parameters, we wouldn�t censure each other. If people like NAMBLA self-identify themselves to me as gays and lesbians, I accept them as brothers and sisters with love.

Second, when we decided to rejoin the social or political mainstream again, we would integrate as the group we saw ourselves to be, complete with our own set of values, or we would not integrate at all.

And third, we would no longer permit any heteros�nationally or internationally, individually or collectively�to tell us who we are, what persons our groups should or should not consist of. We assert our right to self-determination, we assert our right to collective self-definition. We queers will decide for ourselves who our members should be.

Members of SOS, notably NAMBLA, have been accused of child molestation. Insofar as child molestation is concerned, the most common form is the sexual coercion by which gay and lesbian children are bedeviled into hetero identities and behaviors. And this is practiced daily by the whole national and international hetero community�parents, family, teachers, preachers, doctors, lawyers, and Indian chiefs, not to overlook U.S. senators and pooh-bah media.

This outrageous coercion of gay kids into hetero identities and behaviors against their wills is not only sexually abusive, it is spiritually devastating rape, because the child unbeknowingly is being led into developing self-loathing at the same time. For this gigantic criminal trespass against not only today�s children but against all of us also�all of us�since childhood, from the queers my age of 82 down through all the generations of queers assembled here in New York, to the gay kids still being bedeviled by sexual coercion against their wills, we the international gay and lesbian people here this week should unite to sue the whole guilty heterosexual community lock, stock, and barrel to within an inch of their lives, and for every nickel they�ve got, as a beginning of compensation. And while we�re at it, we should request our first-class citizenship as well. This could be the class-action suit of the century.

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39 posted on 08/20/2007 11:32:31 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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“For over 30 years, Botswana had the fastest growing economy in the world. Since independence, Botswana has had one of the fastest growth rates in per capita income in the world. Botswana has transformed itself from one of the poorest countries in the world to a middle-income country with a per capita GDP of $11,200 in 2006. Economic growth averaged over 9% per year from 1966 to 1999. “

Looks great right? Free markets rule, right?
BUT

“Botswana has been hit very hard by the AIDS epidemic; the average life expectancy in Botswana at birth has declined from 64 years in 1990 to 50.6 years in 2007. Botswana residents, along with those of neighbouring Swaziland and Zimbabwe, have some of the shortest average lifespans in the world. Approximately one in three Botswana has HIV, giving Botswana the second highest HIV infection rate in the world after Swaziland.”

In other words, you can be a great fiscal conservative but if everyone is screwing around, that’s the end of the country.


40 posted on 08/20/2007 11:34:10 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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