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Trying To Fathom Farming's Origins
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | 8-14-2007 | Bradley T Lepper

Posted on 08/15/2007 10:42:04 AM PDT by blam

Trying to fathom farming's origins Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:22 AM By Bradley T. Lepper

Tom Dillehay, an archaeologist with Vanderbilt University, and several colleagues announced last month in the journal Science that they had recovered remarkably early evidence for agriculture in South America.

Working at several sites in the Nanchoc Valley of northern Peru, they found squash seeds that were more than 9,000 years old. This is nearly twice as old as previously reported farming evidence in the region.

Dillehay and his co-authors point out that one of the most important aspects of this discovery is that "horticulture and cultural complexity developed in the Americas nearly as early as it did in many parts of the Old World."

Why should this be surprising?

Given that the civilizations of the Old and New Worlds developed independently, there is no reason to expect that peoples on opposite sides of the globe all would adopt agriculture within a short period of time.

And yet, we've known for some time that they did. Mark Nathan Cohen, anthropologist at the State University of New York, Plattsburg, wrote in 1977 that "the problem is not just to account for the beginnings of agriculture, but to account for the fact that so many human populations made this economic transition in so short a time."

The discoveries made by Dillehay and his colleagues make this problem more acute by considerably shortening the span of time involved from 4,000-5,000 years to 2,000-3,000 years.

For Cohen, the near-global synchrony of the origins of agriculture meant that understanding how and why people all suddenly turned to farming required a global explanation.

He proposed that a rapidly growing human population spread throughout the world. Continuing population growth put stress on local food supplies, which, in turn, led to farming as a way of artificially boosting food production.

Not all archaeologists agree that a global explanation is necessary. Certainly, an understanding of the problem must be based on detailed studies of local archaeological sequences, such as Dillehay and his colleagues are providing.

Bradley T. Lepper is curator of archaeology at the Ohio Historical Society.


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KEYWORDS: agriculture; andes; animalhusbandry; dietandcuisine; dillehay; farming; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; huntergatherers; origins; peru; tomdillehay
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"...why people all suddenly turned to farming required a global explanation."

Oops.

1 posted on 08/15/2007 10:42:06 AM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 08/15/2007 10:42:31 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Did they find a 9000 year old Burpee’s Seed Catalog, too?.......


3 posted on 08/15/2007 10:50:17 AM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor..................)
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To: blam
Nanchoc Valley of northern Peru, they found squash seeds that were more than 9,000 years old.

 

I figure people started farming about 15 minuets after discovering beer

 

4 posted on 08/15/2007 10:51:00 AM PDT by grjr21
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To: blam
Given that the civilizations of the Old and New Worlds developed independently, there is no reason to expect that peoples on opposite sides of the globe all would adopt agriculture within a short period of time.

We all know that people get hungry at different rates.

(Do I really need the /s?)

5 posted on 08/15/2007 10:59:44 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: grjr21

Lots of people agree with you about that.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/04/0424_kurtbeer.html


6 posted on 08/15/2007 11:03:13 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: blam

aliens can travel preeeettyyyyyy quick ya know...


7 posted on 08/15/2007 11:04:01 AM PDT by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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To: blam
Given that the civilizations of the Old and New Worlds developed independently, there is no reason to expect that peoples on opposite sides of the globe all would adopt agriculture within a short period of time.

Umm...yes there is. It's called Atlantis.

8 posted on 08/15/2007 11:06:04 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("I shall need the clankers.")
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To: blam
Farming began because early men needed the grain to make beer.

Later, grape farming developed because girly men needed the grapes to make chablis...

9 posted on 08/15/2007 11:10:11 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: blam
What I wonder is why anyone thinks it is surprising that agriculture might spread around the world in a "mere" 3,000 years.

The other interesting facts, not mentioned in this article, is how very much of the agriculture we take for granted comes not from Europe/Asia but from South America. Beans, potatoes, tomatoes, corn, squash - it makes you wonder what Europeans ate before 1492 besides bread.


10 posted on 08/15/2007 11:11:45 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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Thanks Blam. At least no one claimed Dillehay was out of his, uh, gourd, this time.

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11 posted on 08/15/2007 11:25:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, August 14, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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because they didn’t have the internet to look up ‘farming’ in wikipedia :)


12 posted on 08/15/2007 11:34:16 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Pumpkin patch dies 12,000 years ago. No one around. What happened to the seeds? Someone finds the seeds 12,000 years later. Aha, farming is 12,000 years old. Write article. Global significance.

yitbos

13 posted on 08/15/2007 11:36:23 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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it makes you wonder what Europeans ate before 1492 besides bread

Four and twenty blackbirds, baked in a pie. With manioc root presumably.

14 posted on 08/15/2007 11:37:00 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Bread, beer, cheese, cabbage, beets, turnips, lentils, olives and, with luck, an occasional bit of meat or fish.

Pizza hadn’t even been invented!

How they survived is not as miraculous as why they bothered!

15 posted on 08/15/2007 11:41:06 AM PDT by null and void (I hate to suggest something this radical, but why not let the policy follow the facts? ~ReignOfError)
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To: blam
...farming as a way of artificially boosting food production.

Another human-hating, leftist archaeologist. Ants farm aphids, is this "artificial?"

16 posted on 08/15/2007 11:45:50 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: null and void

“How they survived is not as miraculous as why they bothered!”

You answered your own question. Second one from the left.


17 posted on 08/15/2007 12:04:09 PM PDT by Rinnwald
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More than just seeds.

The squash seeds were found in Nanchoc Valley, about 400 miles north of Lima. Researchers also found peanut hulls and cotton fibers that date back 6,000 to 8,500 years, as well as stone hoes, furrowed garden plots and small irrigation canals.

More Infor

18 posted on 08/15/2007 12:06:58 PM PDT by elli1
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To: Rinnwald

Yeah. I thought of that as soon as I hit post.

Still, no chocolate????


19 posted on 08/15/2007 12:15:08 PM PDT by null and void (I hate to suggest something this radical, but why not let the policy follow the facts? ~ReignOfError)
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"More than just seeds."

The reeeeeeeeeeeeest of the story is not in original article. I see.

yitbos

20 posted on 08/15/2007 12:44:01 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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