Posted on 06/17/2007 6:54:37 PM PDT by Rodney King
Why I believe in Creation Posted: December 17, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern
I was stunned the other day when I asked evolution-believing listeners to my nationally syndicated radio show to call in and tell me why they believed.
"Just give me one reason why you accept the theory," I said. "Just give me the strongest argument. You don't have to give me mountains of evidence. Just tell me why I should accept it."
Not one evolutionist called in.
Meanwhile, the phone banks lit up with dozens of evolution skeptics.
Go figure. For more than 40 years, evolution has been taught as fact in government schools to generations of children, yet there is still widespread skepticism, if not cynicism, about the theory across the country.
But, because of political correctness and the fear of ostracism, most people are afraid to admit what they believe about our origins. That's why I wrote my last column "I believe in Creation."
The reaction to it has been unprecedented. While I expected mostly negative fallout, most letters have been quite positive.
So, I decided to take this issue a step further. Since the evolutionists don't want to tell me why they believe in their theory, I figured I would explain why I believe in mine.
The primary reason I believe, of course, is because the Bible tells me so. That's good enough for me, because I haven't found the Bible to be wrong about anything else.
But what about the worldly evidence?
The evolutionists insist the dinosaurs lived millions and millions of years ago and became extinct long before man walked the planet.
I don't believe that for a minute. I don't believe there is a shred of scientific evidence to suggest it. I am 100 percent certain man and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time. In fact, I'm not at all sure dinosaurs are even extinct!
Think of all the world's legends about dragons. Look at those images. What were those folks seeing? They were clearly seeing dinosaurs. You can see them etched in cave drawings. You can see them in ancient literature. You can see them described in the Bible. You can see them in virtually every culture in every corner of the world.
Did the human race have a collective common nightmare? Or did these people actually see dragons? I believe they saw dragons what we now call dinosaurs.
Furthermore, many of the dinosaur fossils discovered in various parts of the world were found right along human footprints and remains. How did that happen?
And what about the not-so-unusual sightings of contemporary sea monsters? Some of them have actually been captured.
There are also countless contemporary sightings of what appear to be pterodactyls in Asia and Africa.
You know what I think? I think we've been sold a bill of goods about the dinosaurs. I don't believe they died off millions and millions of years ago. In fact, I'm not at all convinced they've died off completely.
Evolutionists have put the cart before the horse. They start out with a theory, then ignore all the facts that contradict the theory. Any observation that might call into question their assumptions is discounted, ridiculed and covered up. That's not science.
How could all the thousands of historical records of dragons and behemoths throughout mankind's time on earth be ignored? Let's admit it. At least some of these observations and records indicate dinosaurs were walking the earth fairly recently if not still walking it today.
If I'm right about that which I am then the whole evolutionary house of cards comes tumbling down.
This is the evidence about which the evolutionists dare not speak.
That’s YOUR accepted geological history of the Grand Canyon. You reject any other explanation.
What you say, is true for millions...its an either or proposition...its either Christianity, or evolution...that one must exclude the other...for millions of others, it is not like that...they say they are Christians, and also say they support evolution...for them, it is not an either or proposition...they see no conflict at all...people are all over the place on this...I dont think that there is one general consensus...
“whereupon the God of creation will begin a personal relationship with you and speak to you through His word, and through your interactions with htis world as God answers your specific prayers in ways that will be more than enough to prove it to yourself.”
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You are joking, right? What “personal relationship” do you have with “God”? Do you hear voices? Or is your imagination running wild with you? And if one has “specific prayers,” do you really believe they will be “answered”? If I pray that a mountain will move from one location to another, do you really expect that it will happen? Why would you make such ridiculous assertions?
To: b_sharp
[Because its just an assertion.
Can you prove that the Bible is the inspired word of God?]
Can you prove it isnt?
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I say the entire universe, including you and everyone else here on this thread, is a figment of my very creative imagination. You don’t really exist — I conjured you up in my mind. Can you prove that is incorrect?
Hogwash. If you believe the Adam and Eve creation myth means the world is 6,000 years old, you are welcome to your stubborn belief. It has nothing to do with Christ’s message and my salvation. This belief reminds me of the Apostles throught the bible continually being lovingly chastised by Christ because, having heard the message, continually got it wrong. Interestingly, you are taking the same dogmatic stance the Catholic church took in maintaining the sun revolved around the earth. Time for a reformation in your own minds.
placemarker
You are correct in saying that there are people who believe in both Christianity and macro-evolution. There are some on this thread, and I know some personally among my friends. I have a Catholic friend who believes man evolved from goo in the ground, but that it was all part of the process God used to create everything. My problem with that is that the Catholic church, and many other Christian denominations, believes in the doctrine of “original sin,” i.e. that Adam’s disobedience in the Garden of Evil forever cast all humans born in sin. Jesus came to this world as the only way to salvation from that original sin. Thus, if the Adam and Eve story is repudiated by evolution, as it certainly is in my view, the notion of “original sin” goes out the window, along with the need for a Savior.
The Catholic Church, and most other Christian churches, still believe and preach “original sin,” and they do so based on their belief that the Adam and Eve creation story is literally true. Curiously, the Catholic Church basically acknowledges that evolution of humans from earlier animals may be true (which strikes me as a contradiction of its position on a literal Adam and Eve), but tries to get around that by saying there was no evolution of “souls,” whatever the heck that means.
Christ’s message, at least according to Paul, was that Jesus came to redeem man for the original sin of Adam. Contrary to what you said, I don’t need a “reformation of my mind.” I submit that you need to realize that evolution debunks Christianity.
fortunately I don’t have to- if we’re all figments of imagination- big whoopidie doo- when we pass on and htere’s no heaven or hell- I lose nothing- if however, God’s word is divinely true, then I’ve gained everything- the figment question is of no real importance to me.
[You are joking, right? What personal relationship do you have with God? Do you hear voices? Or is your imagination running wild with you? And if one has specific prayers, do you really believe they will be answered? If I pray that a mountain will move from one location to another, do you really expect that it will happen? Why would you make such ridiculous assertions?]
Nope- not joking in the slightest- Voices? No- Inspiration that is directed directly by God? You betcha- Answers to personal very specific requests that would blow your mind at times? You betcha- Could you move a mountain? I don’t know- how great is your faith in God?
[Boy do you ever have things mixed up....I want for there to be such a picture...you say you have seen it...please provide the link, or the picture...I actually do want to see this picture, I assure you...all the pictures I have seen are of civil war people standing over a pterodactyle, and they have all been shown to be hoaxes..]
My mistake then- My apologies about your perceived intentions. I ran across the picture the other day when htis first cropped up and went to book mark it but ran into somethign else and completely forgot- The site said the later supposed WW2 picture was a proven hoax, but the original pic couldn’t be known to be hoax at htis time- could very well be, or not. I did the search in google under “Pterodactal (sp?) WW2 Picture” or “WW2 Picture of Pterodactal” Can’t remember which one now, and it was 2-3 pages into the search (I have my google pages set at 30 results per page.)
[Creationists are the ones claiming that the Bible is the literal word of God, it is up to them to prove it.]
No it isn’t- God invites each person to prove it to themselves by believing on the name of His Son- Take it or leave it. Those of us who have taken God at His word and found Him to be truthful and true to His word have al lthe proof we need that His word is the inspired word- furthermore, there are multitudes of archeological evidneces and thousands of eyewitnesses that gave testimony to the life and miracles of Christ
The ‘burden’ isn’t on us- our final judge isn’t man or htose that demand proof yet won’t take the necessary step to to experience exactly whst I said one could experience through a walk with the Creator.
[Sorry, but my hallucinogenic drug taking days are long over.]
Glad ot hear that- mine too- but not sure what that has to do with meeting God throguh salvation?
“Nope- not joking in the slightest- Voices? No- Inspiration that is directed directly by God? You betcha- Answers to personal very specific requests that would blow your mind at times? You betcha- Could you move a mountain? I dont know- how great is your faith in God?”
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See, this is why it is hard to take people like you (people who claim to talk with God, or have a “personal relationship” with God, whatever that means, etc.) very seriously. You claim apparently to have had some kind of divine intervention in your life that non-believers don’t have, and that the divine intervention “would blow my mind.” Yet, you have no proof — you have just your assertion that you got what you wanted or needed because you had supernatural help. Sorry, I’m not buying that.
You also imply that I could literally move a mountain if my faith in God is sufficient. Again, this is a ridiculous claim. Jesus is quoted in the Bible as stating that I can move a mountain, literally, from one place to another, if I have sufficient faith. Baloney. You claim to have strong faith. Please move a mountain for us to show us whether Jesus was right.
.....That is a load. Is it LDS stuff?
From Romans 1 vv 16 and following.
NOTHING can be "proved." The great hubris of naturalists is that empirical assertions are "proved" because they are supported by empirical observations. That is horseshit and doesn't get nearly the mockery it should. Empiricism is every bit as much faith based as the person sitting in the pew reciting "I believe in God the Father Almighty.... " etc.
The object of faith is different. That is the only difference.
Huh?
And I submit that you understand neither the theory of evolution nor Christianity, nor the implications of either for each other.
Are you a sophomore biology student or something?
Huh?
Do you not understand that? We can go over it in detail if you wish. We can assume certain axioms and then "prove" a number of items if we rest (by faith) on those unprovable axioms. Your confusion is like the fish who says "water? what water? I don't see any water. There is nothing but what I and everyone else lives in."
That is the best post I have seen on this thread so far! I don't know if you realize it, but you have just jerked the guts out of the empiricist nonsense that gets bandied about in the natural sciences community. Hats off to ya for that. Do you realize what you have done to your own empiricism and trust in "science?"
Much more proof for the existence of God than in all the flimsy evidence Evos have.
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