Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
The problem is others are terming what I said as the sam choice as it is said now. They disregard everything I say and write that it is the same choice as touted by groups like NOW. I didn’t do that, other’s did that.
I have said over and over that I don’t like any of the choices available today and that I seek another where no life is lost and choice itself is not lost. It is not my fault others refuse to see the difference or claim there is none.
Many things over time were speculative. Ideas about what is not in the here and now is where advancement comes from. As example I offer this. “Kirk in Scottie” (as Captain Kirk tunes his ‘communicator’) Today we have cell phones. ‘Communicators’ right?
Point being this, ideas often lead to progress even when they seem unattainable in the bginning.
How about if the choice is ‘pregnant or not pregnant’ and regardless of the decision, no life is lost? Is this not progress from where we stand today?
The option/choice (in idea) I am talking about is intended to replace abortion, not simply be added to the list of ‘options’.
LOL,,,Waiting in the wings...;0)
You miss the point entirely, she chose to govern those rights when she engaged in the behavior that caused the pregnancy. The choice was to engage in the behavior that caused the pregnancy. One she is pregnant, the choice has already been made
this fantasy argument of yours is ridiculous, and I’m not wasting any more time on it, or helping you help women to shirk their responsibility. If you are big enough to play the game (sex) you are big enough to suffer the consequences.
The woman has a choice, just a few steps earlier than you wannt to make it
I was trying to put forth that I am a conservative. Because I am. I was hoping that would help people understand that I am no troll and I am no leftist liberal.
School’s out bump to the undead thread!
No,no,no. You’ve got it all wrong!
It’s a ‘non viable mass’.
He/she says so right here.
““An Unbornchild cannot be seperate while residing within another’s body.”
Eh?
Just wanted to keep JustSayin (No) up to speed
ROFL
“That happens at birth, but I do not take the postition that this means no rights exist.”
Yes, at the end of the day, you effectively do take this view. You are not comparing levels of rights at all. You are not separating inconveniences from something as important as the right to life. You are basically saying that, well, the woman has rights (whatever they may be) and the unborn child has rights, but I’m going to choose to ignore the child’s rights and just side with the woman’s rights for no reason at all. Just for the heck of it.
You have not focused at all on the child’s rights, so you ARE effectively ignoring them. You just say, well, rights are rights, no matter the fact that they may carry different weight when analyzed under the scope of reason , so I’ll side with the woman. You have given no clear reason why you do so, or why you choose to ignore the child’s rights outside of stating that you recognize them.
Good luck with that.
go Nana, with facts
“Just wanted to keep JustSayin (No) up to speed”
Speed? LOL!
Well ‘it’ is getting closer.
Post 8945 sounds like he is really starting the melt down.
Define, precisely, without exaggeration or sarcasm, as completely as possible, the overly conservative positions of a "Wingnut" - in your opinion.
Yes, and I even sensed someone yesterday eve’ not wanting to see it get to 10,000. Don’t recall who, doesn’t matter, but I’ll be posting to it until Rudy submits!
Linky...live mice?
What site is that?
“Post 8945 sounds like he is really starting the melt down.”
How long to you think it would take the men in the ‘white coats’ got get here?
:0)
I left some breakfast food out, don’t know if you saw it (lol), leftover from the Luau last night.
to = do
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