Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[Just sayin]

What have I not answered mom? List the questions I have not answered please.

[airborne]

The answer is yes to transplant.

I just want to make it clear to everyone....

That is your answer, not Duncan Hunter's!

[Bigh4u2]

LOL!

[Brad’s Gramma]

(and this is the first time I've used italics, hope it works.)

WHOO HOOOOOOO!!!!! Ya did it! Next step, BOLD!

[NittanyLion]

You ought to stop being so negative and start thinking creatively like Gallileo and I do.

LOL! Yep, that's my problem...too damn negative.

Hey, what if we moved them all to France?

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Abortion was considered a “Catholic issue”...

If the SBC (Southern Baptists) had joined the Catholics back then instead of ignoring appeals for help in the fight against what was, even then, a holocaust, I believe abortion would have beem outlawed...
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I think this is the key to much of the problems we have today,,,As I remember the Sisters of Mercy ran the so-called “Un-Wed Mothers Home” that took care of mother
and child,,,”Roooty” and company would have been run out of town...or worse...

[Knitting A Conundrum]

Excellent.

Amazing anyone equating stretch marks and such to the value of a human life.

A baby takes 9 months of time of a woman. An abortion takes away an entire lifetime.

[del4hope]

Your "solution" is akin to me responding to a question about whether invading Iraq was appropriate by stating that the real solution is to move all Iraqis to a moon colony

Great analogy.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

The problems that develop when people use some weird sort of sense of fairness to substitute for right and wrong....

[metmom]

Today, the case is made that the unborn death is the result of no alternative, therefor it has to be accepted.

Pro-abortion by your own admission.

NO! the *unborn death* aka murder aka abortion, DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ACCEPTED. Because your fantasyland scenario doesn't exist yet does not mean we have to accept the wholesale slaughter of babies.

[Just sayin]

How am I ignoring the reality mom? You would rather sit in the same position we have since Roe as long as it takes to impose a ban? Not taking the time to even talk about any other idea?

Maybe it is you that is ignoring things. The choice I support involves no death. Seems to me you don’t even think that is worth discussion. Indeed, you would rather spend your time demonizing me for trying to find an alternative. How is doing that helpful to the endgame of doing away with abortion as it is today?

[T'wit]

>> my position is about finding a way where that isn't the case.

So stop talking about it and go discover one.

Even Woody Allen invented an Orgasmatron. You haven't found a thing.

[Bigh4u2]

“The problems that develop when people use some weird sort of sense of fairness to substitute for right and wrong....”

Yes. And they are generally “PSYCHO-logical”

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Looks like “dominic harr” got what he wanted. he said he was pro-choice, so Mr. Robinson aborted him!

Poetic justice, that. ;)

[metmom]

And my position is about finding a way where that isn't the case.

So, just what are you actively doing now to find that solution? Are you engaged in medical research? How's it going? What's the latest on the fetal transplant front?

[Just sayin]

And just how are you working for it?

I am not the one who only seeks to dismiss it as a possible alternative that would stop aboritons. I am willing to talk about it and take all the heat thrown at me for doing so.

How can I be for abortion when my position is not one of death for the unborn? I guess you are like some others here. you would rather just flame me instead of exploring EVERY possible way to stop abortion. Maybe the reality is that I am more akin to stopping this than you are. For I am willing to accept other possabilities than just an outright ban to see it accomplished.

[WorkerbeeCitizen]

place holder bump

[Brad’s Gramma]

Try THIS!!!!

*Ding Ding*

Newsflash! If you do NOT want to EVER deal with this problem of (gasp) pregnancy......

KEEP YOUR CLOTHES ON!!!!!!

[Just sayin]

Uh huh mom. Maybe you should listen to your own words. I am taking an action, trying o extend the possabilities with an idea not entrenched in the regular debate.

All you have done is chastize me for doing so.

How bad do you really want to end abortion? Only if it is on your own terms or any way possible?

[NittanyLion]

So stop talking about it and go discover one.

Part of me is expecting him to tell us all that he's really close to developing a prototype, but unfortunately a key source of funds has pulled out of the project. But if we can just send him a few dollars, he knows with our support he can bring this amazing procedure to reality!