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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: justshutupandtakeit

“It is amusing to hear your concern about truth and integrity when your side”

...um yeah the conservative side

“makes every effort to distort Giuliani’s positions”

No. Why distort when he supports abortion, restricting the 2nd Amendment, he has no record or experience in national security, and belives in open borders and sanctuary cities.


7,701 posted on 04/24/2007 3:37:22 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (No longer Republican - forever a conservative)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg; Dominic Harr
“You really seem to enjoy thowing out that word “mob”.

Maybe you could try to spice up your smears with Pack, or Herd, or Gang, or Horde.

Anything to break up the tedium of mob."

Or maybe you could start salting lynch in with mob to change thing up a bit.”

Since this is a Rooty thread, how about throwing Kerik in to go with the word Mob ?

If would fit and before you know it, it would be like a real conversation.

7,702 posted on 04/24/2007 3:38:01 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: Kevmo

I have no idea what you are babbling about.

I thought I will you in on some of the gaps in your knowledge.

But why bother?


7,703 posted on 04/24/2007 3:38:36 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: pissant

I’d rather go down fighting, then waiting for socialism to take full hold on America.


7,704 posted on 04/24/2007 3:38:55 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Dominic Harr; Jim Robinson
So, it doesn't bother you at all that abortuaries in the United States take more lives EVERY SINGLE DAY than the terrorists did on 9/11/01?

No it does not, I'm pro-choice.

There is NO SUCH THING AS PRO-CHOICE, the baby has no choice, it is wantonly sentenced to die. You are PRO-ABORTION, you support the murder of 50 MILLION innocents over a 34 year period. You support wholesale genocide on a scale that outranks Hitler, Stalin and Saddam COMBINED.

I'd be happy to debate abortion on another thread, I don't think this would be a very good place to debate it.

Why not? Jim specifically mentioned it in his original post. Or do you just prefer to "debate" infanticide with the other pro-abortionists at Wide Awakes?

7,705 posted on 04/24/2007 3:39:17 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Kevmo

Thanks. It’s just the difference between theory and reality. I live in the real world, not some bubble world where I invent theories about how the real world might be. And of course it helps to put a little bit of thought into the situation, instead of seeing that Americans aren’t picking tomatoes, and deciding that’s all there is to the story.


7,706 posted on 04/24/2007 3:40:55 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: Kevmo

“I thought I will you in” = “I thought I would try to fill you in”


7,707 posted on 04/24/2007 3:41:07 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Kevmo; Jim Robinson

“...We call for the repeal of the 17th amendment...”

I second that emotion.


7,708 posted on 04/24/2007 3:41:30 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: wagglebee

Wow! Looks like I missed quite a few important posts. I’ll never, ever, ever catch up now. But I’ll still post once in a while anyway, just to satisfy the addiction. Thanks for staying on top of it.


7,709 posted on 04/24/2007 3:43:26 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: michigander
And here we are. It appears that Mr. Robinson may have grown tired of waiting and decided not to compromise anymore.

I don't think you get it.

The crackdown here has been on those who wanted to debate core conservative values, rather than how to implement them.

If you have to debate your values, you don't have any.
7,710 posted on 04/24/2007 3:44:38 PM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: Brad's Gramma
Well, back at that time we were getting an opus almost everyday. Sometimes twice a day or more.
After all this brouhaha we may see a collection of them again soon.
FR seems to go through this ever so often.

I'm not sure if mine could be called the best but it's probably a one of a kind.
Might even be the first of its kind. I dunno......

7,711 posted on 04/24/2007 3:45:00 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Beagle8U
how about throwing Kerik in to go with the word Mob ?

There's some things you just don't talk about. Not if you like kneecaps.

And me, I likes my kneecaps so I'm not saying nuthin 'bout THAT Mob.
7,712 posted on 04/24/2007 3:45:12 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Dog Gone

Why would he form an exploratory committee if he is already planning to declare in May? It would have so little time to gear up before becoming defunct.


7,713 posted on 04/24/2007 3:45:48 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: American Quilter
A picture really is worth a thousand words.

Only to those of us willing to look, and able to comprehend. Libs are lacking in both. They're eager to cause the same chaos again, and once again deny the existence of the chaos they cause.

7,714 posted on 04/24/2007 3:45:55 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: Sam Hill

Got a link? I didn’t think so.


7,715 posted on 04/24/2007 3:46:07 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

Stonewall Mr Bush [Free Republic]
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a37bd2556430e.htm


7,716 posted on 04/24/2007 3:46:32 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Jim Robinson

I’ll throw myself on the mercy of the FR court and ask what others have asked...who else can beat her?

I’m as dismayed as you are and Rush is that we have apparently lost the ideological battle for capitalism, decency, personal responsibility and limited government and this is where we have come to...looking for a NY City liberal to bail us out. I didn’t create the problem and neither did you. I don’t disagree with you. Frankly, by creating FR you have done a lot for the right wing. (I’m not an ass kisser and if I disagreed with you I would be brave enough to tell you so)

I don’t have the answer. What the heck do I know. I’ve read every book about Barry Goldwater in the library including his autobiography. He did a lot to advance the conservative movement even while going down in a blaze of glory in 1964.

It just seems to me as a pragmatist that there is a time and place for a guy like Goldwater. I’m not convinced that this is the time nor the place for a martyr to the cause.

I curse the MSM that propped up socialism and liberalism and put us and the American people in this position to decide between the bubonic plague (Hillary) and cholera (Rudy).


7,717 posted on 04/24/2007 3:46:58 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Reagan Man

Me too. With Rudy out of the way, we will be opening up to a good conservative candidate


7,718 posted on 04/24/2007 3:47:12 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
Wasn’t Willie Green a classmate?

Willie Green! I remember him. (But from more recently, since I'm Class of 2005)

7,719 posted on 04/24/2007 3:47:21 PM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: pissant

Willie was the class of ‘98. He’s still posting over at LP.


7,720 posted on 04/24/2007 3:47:37 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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