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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: politicalwit

You’re right. I was just trying to figure out how someone could put “rudy giuliani” and “conservative movement in the same sentence/though.

He’s yoko giuliani, and he’s here to break up the GOP.


7,441 posted on 04/24/2007 1:30:01 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: dirtboy; pissant
Fat, drunk and not having seen Animal House is no way to go through life, son...

LOL!!!

7,442 posted on 04/24/2007 1:30:23 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: pissant

“Al Simmons”
Oh, yeah, he was one of the biggest rooty toots on the site.
Was. hehe.


7,443 posted on 04/24/2007 1:30:39 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Tolsti

Stay home? Not me. I’m going to fight him tooth and nail! I intend to see him Swiftboated the hell outta here!!

Abortion? Gay marriage? The gay agenda? Radical feminism? Sanctuary cities for illegals? Grabbing guns? Abusing government power? Seizing private property? Trampling on our constitution? Trampling on our individual rights? A flat out socialist liberal for President of the United States of America from the GOP?

Not on my watch, pal!!


7,444 posted on 04/24/2007 1:30:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: dirtboy
I'd rather have a secularist who adheres to core conservative values than a Christian who is a flaming liberal.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. However, atheists are usually leftists, whereas Bible thumping Christians are overwhelmingly conservative. One's faith often leads to one's politics.

7,445 posted on 04/24/2007 1:31:50 PM PDT by stillonaroll (Rudy: pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-gun)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Maybe I missed it - anyone figure out which so-called (ex-)FReeper (read: MOLE/troll) wrote the piece over at DK?


7,446 posted on 04/24/2007 1:32:15 PM PDT by cgk
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

It’s going to be a lot worse than we think, and abortion isn’t going to be in the top 5 issues.

That is, if we don’t receive a nuke attack before..

This election is already starting to be a pain. And our side is eating ourselves early too. The media’s gonna make it a full nightmare. Look at the cho thing, they clearly have no shame at all.


7,447 posted on 04/24/2007 1:32:29 PM PDT by Tolsti
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To: Dominic Harr
Flames that use to be slapped down are now a regular occurence on every single political thread. The mob is being allowed to 'shout down' anyone who doesn't think like them.

You're posting on a conservative website showing support for a quasi-liberal for the republican nomination...it doesn't get any more straight forward than that...sheesh...

7,448 posted on 04/24/2007 1:32:52 PM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: pissant
Does that make us Rudyphobes?

I think it makes us pro-life and pro-gun.

7,449 posted on 04/24/2007 1:33:08 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Enosh
'Our Prayers are with you!
7,450 posted on 04/24/2007 1:33:18 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Enosh

Prayers incoming - I’m sorry for your & your family’s loss.


7,451 posted on 04/24/2007 1:33:42 PM PDT by cgk
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To: Petronski

Yep. I don’t hate Rudy. I hate his politics.


7,452 posted on 04/24/2007 1:33:53 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Dominic Harr
We can't use flames?!?!


7,453 posted on 04/24/2007 1:34:34 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: Tolsti
And our side is eating ourselves early too.

YUP.

Way worse than the days leading up to Bush II, if I remember correctly.

7,454 posted on 04/24/2007 1:34:59 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: politicalwit

Queers fornicating, unborn babies being murdered and all you think about is yourself. Your a weak, weak person.

ROTFLMAO


7,455 posted on 04/24/2007 1:35:50 PM PDT by merry10
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Way worse than the days leading up to Bush II, if I remember correctly.

You remember correctly. And that was pretty damn ugly.

7,456 posted on 04/24/2007 1:35:54 PM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: Enosh

Oh my. My loved ones are passing on and it is so hard. My prayers, FRiend.


7,457 posted on 04/24/2007 1:36:06 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: yellowdoghunter

Thank you. Check your mail.


7,458 posted on 04/24/2007 1:36:09 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: Reagan Man

I kept it to four. I could put 15 items there, personally. But those 4 are musts. I say musts because other criteria has shaky chances in any candidate. Other than Ron Paul, no candidate seems interested in a serious philosophical challenge to the size and scope of the federal government, or at least has done anything to demonstrate it in any meaningful way. (And Paul is disqualified for other reasons). Other than Hunter, all the GOP candidates seem in favor of some convoluted immigration reform. (Fortunately, Hunter’s fence was signed into law). And most folks could live with green and/or gay friendly IF that were their only sins.

But my original 4 items are absolutes.


7,459 posted on 04/24/2007 1:36:21 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Jim Robinson
And he’ll go down in a flaming hell in the general.

I would be willing to bet a beer on that!

Then again, I predicted the Bears would win the superbowl, so my crystal ball is about as worthless as they get!

We'll just have to wait and see what happens, I suppose.

If the idea is to make folks like me uncomfortable speaking out here, I can deal with that. Altho certainly, I wish there were more respectful discussions and fewer flame wars.

I personally don't mind the flames. But I'm sure they have a chilling effect overall.

7,460 posted on 04/24/2007 1:36:29 PM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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