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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: cicero's_son
Little gnat, you are no conservative. You're just a small fry with a grudge.

You keep telling yourself that.
7,241 posted on 04/24/2007 12:19:37 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: politicalwit
We keep hearing that Rudy is tough on terror but exactly what in the hell has he done? I know he left NYC vulnerable before and after 911. I want to know...HOW IS RUDY GIULIANI TOUGH ON TERROR?

He talks really tough.

7,242 posted on 04/24/2007 12:19:57 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Enosh

Another lost soul.

Maybe he’s preparing his farewell.

Thanks for heads up.


7,243 posted on 04/24/2007 12:20:23 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Tolik

Hey....one of my favorite FRiends! Thanks so much. Your post has made my FReeper day. I sincerely hope you are well and I am always grateful for your valuable pings.


7,244 posted on 04/24/2007 12:20:23 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: mkjessup

Oh that’s right. You were at pains earlier to tell me (and everyone) how very, very important and special you are. LOL.

Get over yourself.


7,245 posted on 04/24/2007 12:20:29 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: wagglebee
So, it doesn't bother you at all that abortuaries in the United States take more lives EVERY SINGLE DAY than the terrorists did on 9/11/01?

No it does not, I'm pro-choice.

I'd be happy to debate abortion on another thread, I don't think this would be a very good place to debate it.

7,246 posted on 04/24/2007 12:20:33 PM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: Dominic Harr

Are you planning on supporting Giuliani by bashing President Reagan? Are you going to support abortion and infanticide?
Are you planning on tearing down conservative candidates by criticizing them for “flaws” that are 100 times worse in Giuliani?

If not, I don’t think you have a problem.


7,247 posted on 04/24/2007 12:22:22 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: Fiddlstix
Trivia Question: What is Lt. Columbo's first name?

Lt.??

7,248 posted on 04/24/2007 12:22:27 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Politicalmom
-the first logical reason for him to delay entering that I have heard...
7,249 posted on 04/24/2007 12:23:30 PM PDT by tioga
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To: LS
How do you think Rudy is going to make us safer from Terrorists? By leaving the borders open? By disarming the populace?

Disarming innocent civilians will not PROTECT innocent civilians. Rudy doesn't like most of my gun collection.

You can keep saying he's "tough on terrorism", but if he disarms the citizen militia he's tying one hand behind our backs. This is something we do NOT need...

7,250 posted on 04/24/2007 12:23:59 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Brad's Gramma
It's Frank.

Lt. Frank Columbo

7,251 posted on 04/24/2007 12:24:15 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Dominic Harr
>> I am socially liberal, politically conservative.

Socially liberal = government taking a bigger role.
Politically conservative = government taking a smaller role.

Maybe you'd better elaborate. So far, it sounds as if you could have a debate in an empty room, be registered with both political parties, and cancel out your own vote.

7,252 posted on 04/24/2007 12:24:21 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: dirtboy; politicalwit; All

“We keep hearing that Rudy is tough on terror but exactly what in the hell has he done? I know he left NYC vulnerable before and after 911. I want to know...HOW IS RUDY GIULIANI TOUGH ON TERROR?”

1)72 photo opps in 72 hours after 9/11

2) open borders, and a “sanctuary city” mayor

That is how tough on the WOT ol Rudy is.............. : )


7,253 posted on 04/24/2007 12:24:39 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Phillip


7,254 posted on 04/24/2007 12:25:14 PM PDT by agent_delta
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To: wagglebee

See post 7195


7,255 posted on 04/24/2007 12:25:18 PM PDT by del4hope (If your candidate doesn't respect an unborn life, they don't respect your life either.)
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To: Enosh
Yes, I did find WA.

I'm a member of about a dozen boards. I even post at DU and Koz, on occasion.

I like it there, too. I like it here, altho these days mainly on the archaeology and non-political threads.

Don't worry (I'm sure you were!), I won't opus out and leave. I've been flamed far worse than here, let me tell you! I have a thick skin.

My main reason for finally commenting on this thread is I'm very worried about the future of FR. It's gone from a politically conservative discussion board to a socially conservative political activism board. I don't know if that change will work out for FR in the long run.

7,256 posted on 04/24/2007 12:25:33 PM PDT by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: Al Simmons
"BUT THIS IS MY LAST FR POST - EVER."

Sorry, St Joan, you don't get to torch your own bonfire. Martyrdom can't proclaimed . . . it has to be conferred.

7,257 posted on 04/24/2007 12:26:09 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: politicalwit

WDRD?
(What Did Rudy Do?)

Rudy bravely trekked through the WTC rubble, thmoke, and ath and to clearly relay hith orderth, to remove any pothibility of mithcommunicathion, he took off his dutht mathk.


7,258 posted on 04/24/2007 12:26:14 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Al Simmons

Want a little cheese with that whine?


7,259 posted on 04/24/2007 12:26:21 PM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Fiddlstix

Frank?

He doesn’t look like a Frank. More like a Ralph...John...FRANK?

Sheesh.

OK. Thanks.


7,260 posted on 04/24/2007 12:26:27 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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