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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Knitting A Conundrum
hey, knitting, love the quote!

does that mean then that those who do not support the troops should not have liberty?! ::grin:: I couldn't help it!! it just kinda led there!

6,361 posted on 04/23/2007 10:05:01 PM PDT by MountainFlower
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Ditto!
Prayers Up

6,362 posted on 04/23/2007 10:05:09 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: MountainFlower; wolf24
Jim, you are a man of integrity, patriotism, wisdom beyond your years, discernment, and more adjectives than I can list here. One of the things that holds you up above the rest is that you are not the type of man to compromise your principles, ethics and morals to meet the expectations of societal norms!! Keep upholding the high standards by which you live, and by which you maintian FR!!

Watch out now, wolf24 will be along any minute to accuse you of kissing Jim's a**.

Don't mind him though, he's a one-trick pony and is dependent on people dropping 25 cents at a time in his change box for a 2 minute ride.

"clink" LOL
6,363 posted on 04/23/2007 10:05:36 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: hole_n_one

aawwww
you are so sweet.


6,364 posted on 04/23/2007 10:05:51 PM PDT by Feiny (Fruitloops are Gay Cheerios)
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bump


6,365 posted on 04/23/2007 10:06:06 PM PDT by Jotmo (I Had a Bad Experience With the CIA and Now I'm Gonna Show You My Feminine Side - Swirling Eddies)
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To: Zeroisanumber

I have seen that difference too. What a difference the train ride from NYC to Westchester is now. Almost a pretty ride in some places. Less graffiti and abandoned cars.

HOWEVER, IMO he can’t clean up the country. What is wrong with this country are the liberal views he defends and cherishes.


6,366 posted on 04/23/2007 10:06:54 PM PDT by del4hope (If your candidate doesn't respect an unborn life, they don't respect your life either.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
You’ve posted a total of 531 threads and 33,108 replies.

That's staggering.

I feel like I'm at FR all the time, and I've got 63 threads, 8750 replies.

Do you sleep?

6,367 posted on 04/23/2007 10:07:16 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: rattrap

Why I otter spank your wet monkey for that great insult!


6,368 posted on 04/23/2007 10:07:27 PM PDT by Feiny (Fruitloops are Gay Cheerios)
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To: mkjessup

No arguement here! I didn’t need to be convinced by all Rudys other faults, I disqualified him for president on his abortion stance alone!


6,369 posted on 04/23/2007 10:07:40 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: dukakis kerry the dream team
Yikes, Delphinium, who gave you that ping list? Satan?

I think he might have given me different names, those are probably some of his favorites. I know I left out quite a few, they were just the ones I see as being jerks to me.
6,370 posted on 04/23/2007 10:08:17 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

We need leaders like the founding fathers again in this country. I wonder if that is even possible anymore.


6,371 posted on 04/23/2007 10:09:45 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: feinswinesuksass
Hey there girl! LTNS! How ya doin?
Go Ahead: Click It!
6,372 posted on 04/23/2007 10:09:57 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: mkjessup

Rudy’s view on things is the view Europe went for. Give up liberty and self-determination for authoritative control, but a perhaps more pleasant environment. But the state sneaks in and erodes the moral underpinnings that allow you to stand free. You pay a price. When the right to murder the unborn is considered a virtue, and the right to say Merry Christmas is considered a vice, something is wrong with that picture.

“This is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering... And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in it’s train wretchedness and oppression.” Thomas Jefferson


6,373 posted on 04/23/2007 10:10:49 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: upsdriver

Interesting too how in some divorces, it is a woman’s right to choose to leave her husband. A husband who will have to financially support her and any children in her choice to leave him.

Thy hypocrisy of the left never ends.

God knows, He sees and He hears our pleas.

Off to bed for me. Nite.


6,374 posted on 04/23/2007 10:11:05 PM PDT by del4hope (If your candidate doesn't respect an unborn life, they don't respect your life either.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Hello, Dita!


6,375 posted on 04/23/2007 10:13:24 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Zeroisanumber

Yeah, I don’t much care for the name calling, but I don’t mind getting real passionate about one’s beliefs. That said, no one hates like a liberal. They even hate themselves. I don’t bother with hate, it is a wasted emotion. Hating someone is like drinking poison and expecting the other one to die.


6,376 posted on 04/23/2007 10:13:42 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: del4hope
HOWEVER, IMO he can’t clean up the country. What is wrong with this country are the liberal views he defends and cherishes.

Cleaning up a cesspool like pre-Rudy NYC was is good practice for cleaning up what's wrong with the rest of the country.

As a New Yorker, you know what kind of Republican you have to run as in order to get elected mayor of this town: You run as moderate pro-life, pro-gun control, and hard core law-and-order. It boggles my mind that people get down on Rudy for gun control in a city where most of the residents WANT GUN CONTROL. They WANT it, they really do.

Crazy? Hell yeah it's crazy, but that's what the electorate wants.

You know what other crazy crap they want here? They want abortion on demand, so they have it. That's the kind of place NYC is.

6,377 posted on 04/23/2007 10:13:47 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: rbmillerjr

Years ago, back in my college days, I wrote a jazz song titled “Opus in Chartreuse.” (My undergrad degree is in Music (Jazz Performance)from UNT.


6,378 posted on 04/23/2007 10:14:22 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

“This is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering... And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in it’s train wretchedness and oppression.” Thomas Jefferson

And isn’t that quite the crystal ball.


6,379 posted on 04/23/2007 10:14:23 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Shyla
This is getting too ugly. Isn’t it time to lock the thread and go forward?

Not hardly. Jim's still flushing 'em out.


6,380 posted on 04/23/2007 10:14:54 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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