Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[politicalwit]

I just want to add that some people really should catch up on Rudy's actual positions on various issues:

Which week did those positions apply?

[Kevmo]

Standard crickets.... as usual.

[CharlesWayneCT]

The ones I know about:

Fierce Allegiance
writeblock
Mia T.
FairOpinion
quidnunk
Peach

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

Actually, in the elections of ‘06, the Conservative base DID show up at the polls in higher than their usual numbers for a mid-term election. The democrats showed up in their usual numbers and Republicans had a slight edge in regards to turnout.

What swayed the election, was the high numbers of Independent/Swing voters who turned out. They are moderates but lean Liberal. Very few elections were lost because the Republican was not conservative enough. The opposite is true. (Source: American Research Group & Pew research, non partisan) The results were taken from actual voter statistics and were not an exit poll.

[Politicalmom]

That is TOTALLY disgusting. So Peach was the messiah?

[Delphinium]

I don't know what she said but she was part of the Freeper Family and you sir are too full of yourself.

Evidently the owner of the site thought she shouldn't be.

[Coldwater Creek]

That is true! Anyway, how could someone argue with a woman that does her own floors, toilets and bakes brownies and cooks a roast, and pays attention to FR, all in one short morning?

My hat is off to you!

[do the dhue]

Plenty of time.

You nor Fred has to make a decision today.

We have time. We do not have start jumping because the media says so.

[calcowgirl]

This “social conservative” vs “fiscal conservative” stuff is really getting nutty. Tonight someone also called herself a “foreign policy conservative” or some such term.

Nutty is right. The term I've seen used recently is "law and order conservative," apparently tailor made for Rudy.

[Politicalmom]

For some reason, Jim hadn’t noticed her incessant President Reagan bashing before last night.

[dmw]

“It all started the other night when the Sooner gal got on her high horse, and started whining about no one loved her more for being a Rudybot. Jim jumped in the middle of her as well.”

Yeah, now she’s over at the liberal cry baby forum where they all talk about how no good FR conservatives are. Typical liberals.

[mkjessup]

Truth is, Peach was probably shocked she wasn’t zotted sooner. She was doing everything she could to get zotted. She got her wish. I bet she's over at the anti-freeper site with the rest of those liberal cry babies.

I won't take that bet, that's probably exactly where she is, although I suspect that just like dead people who can't believe they're really dead, she's reading this thread and trying to scream at people and then thinking "oh wait, I'm not there anymore, I was zotted, oh my GAWD, I'm dead Jim, I'm ZOTTED!"

And one day not too far in the future, she'll suddenly find herself standing before The Great White Freep Judgment Seat, where the books shall be opened, and an enormous bright shining entity will say 'does her name appear Ron?', and an eternally wise, white-haired Ronald Reagan will sadly shake his head, and say 'No, oh Great White Freeper, her name does not appear', and then belching smoke and sulfur, dark snarling Carvilles with Hillary-eyes will come running from out of the shadows, and drag her off into the darkness, and as she screams 'where are you TAKING me?!?!' she hears the sardonic, demonic voice of an unseen Rudy chuckling, "why, you're coming with ME, we have an appointment at the Planned Infanticide Clinic, don't you want to GO? BWHAHAHAHA!!!!!"

And the Great White Freeper thunders "Depart from me ye accursed, into the DemocRAT Underground prepared for the devil and his angels!"

Damn, I think I had too much coffee.

[stuned_beeber]

There is usually a large static build up before a zot.

[flashbunny]

And “law and order” conservative falls apart with his fighting for illegal aliens against the federal government.

I guess all they have left is now “tough talking on the WOT conservative”.

Or maybe “anti squeegee man conservative”. That’s accurate.

[presently no screen name]

if someone like Fred

"IF" Right now this is about Rudy. The media doesn't tell me what to do. That's merely a scare tactic used by some for the clueless who read here. Libs use scare tactics.

[Delphinium]

For some reason, Jim hadn’t noticed her incessant President Reagan bashing before last night.

Glad he finally did. I can take alot but not that. He needs to pay more attention, that goes on alot.

[CharlesWayneCT]

This thread was posted for no other reason than to stir up this kind of heated and passionate conversation. Then, to single out any members who believe differently from those who tow the forum line and get rid of them.

Nobody was forced to come to this thread and post. Nobody was required to attack Jim here, or to even participate.

This thread WAS posted to stir up passion, passion for the conservative causes that this site espouses and exists to advance.

Nothing in the topic required anybody to post that Reagan was pro-abortion (a false statement refuted multiple times).

Nothing in this conversation required trashing the founding fathers as irreligious, or claiming Jim wanted Hillary to be president.

One can argue whether what was done deserved banning, but each poster acted on their own free will, and took action which lead to banning in full knowledge of the risks of taking the steps they took. Some were warned in advance and refused to heed the warnings.

[do the dhue]

Which week did those positions apply?

LOL

Depends on who is in front of him when he is speaking. Didn't Bill do that when he ran?

[papasmurf]

The first thing I did when I awoke, was come on and check the progress of this thread. :)

Thanks for the ping.

:O)

P

[Petronski]

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