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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: don-o

lol


17,801 posted on 05/02/2007 6:36:30 AM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: EternalVigilance

I think you have handled yourself well. The second hand knowledge attacks without provocation are interesting, but taking a stand sometimes brings that. Be nice if people followed the thread instead of wanting to earn their wings and get slaps on the back for attacking you.


17,802 posted on 05/02/2007 6:39:32 AM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: commonguymd; EternalVigilance
ryone has their pet projects, his is Keyes. I find that harmless. I think he has been under constant attack and handled him or herself pretty good.

I read a book as a kid about a pet owl. The owl did all kinds of funny stuff, such as flying into the house carrying a freshly-killed skunk.

But one scene sticks in my head. The boy was out crow hunting with his dad. The crows were staying out of range, and then suddenly the owl hopped up onto a fence post next to them. The crows lost their minds and came after the owl time after time even though they were getting blown out of the sky.

Keyes and EV seemed to have that impact on many of the recently departed. It really was bizzare. They loved to get after Keyes being some kind of grifter, even as they continually apologized for some of the greatest grifters in recent history, namely the porcine GOP leadership who raised spending at rates that would have made a Democrat blush 30 years ago.

At the end of the day, most of those who are gone approached Bush from the left of the GOP, not the right. And they had tried to drag FR leftward for the last seven years and finally went too far in trying to push Rudy on FR while attacking centrists such as Fred.

17,803 posted on 05/02/2007 6:42:06 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: mutley
I smell sulphur.

Check your underarms.

17,804 posted on 05/02/2007 6:43:26 AM PDT by RobFromGa (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: commonguymd

I’ve read every last post on this thread, and I’ve chimed in along the way. I’m not interested in earning wings or slaps by the way.


17,805 posted on 05/02/2007 6:46:15 AM PDT by RobFromGa (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: dirtboy

I agree, nice analogy in that story.


17,806 posted on 05/02/2007 6:46:49 AM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: dirtboy

I don’t get your story— is EV the owl, and Keyes the skunk? Are you the boy hunter?


17,807 posted on 05/02/2007 6:49:29 AM PDT by RobFromGa (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: RobFromGa
There are exceptions I am sure. EV has stood his ground, the mission is clear - bring the conservatives back to the forefront and quit watering down the message to accommodate the leftward turn in the Republican party. Conservatives matter and watching this country descend into socialism and moral abyss requires a tough stand.
17,808 posted on 05/02/2007 6:49:30 AM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: commonguymd

We can agree on many of the objectives, and still disagree with the tactics.


17,809 posted on 05/02/2007 6:50:31 AM PDT by RobFromGa (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: RobFromGa

I get what you are doing, you like to argue for the sake of arguing. Entertainment.


17,810 posted on 05/02/2007 6:51:03 AM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: commonguymd

Not at all.


17,811 posted on 05/02/2007 6:51:56 AM PDT by RobFromGa (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: RobFromGa

No, Keyes is the owl and those who always attacked Keyes and EV are the crows. The owl made the crows lose their minds.


17,812 posted on 05/02/2007 6:53:27 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: T'wit

>> The scientists among you have long since departed for Darwin Central.

“So why are you still here?”

All they do is talk about FR over there anyway. They have a litmus test for believing in evolution, they treat Christians who believe in evolution with disdain (KellyLynch getting the treatment yesterday). The only thread over there tht has more than 10 posts is the thread on this thread at FR lol.


17,813 posted on 05/02/2007 6:53:38 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Jesus Lamb of God...Have Mercy On us")
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To: commonguymd; RobFromGa
I get what you are doing, you like to argue for the sake of arguing.

Otherwise known as being a jerk.

17,814 posted on 05/02/2007 6:54:12 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: dirtboy

I’ll bring it down to your level,

I know you are but what am I?


17,815 posted on 05/02/2007 6:56:42 AM PDT by RobFromGa (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: Mo1

Driving off a cliff? Come on. 30-40 posters are nothing in the grandtheme of things

“You have not a clue of the damage to FR that y’all have done .. nor do I think you even care”

Your in mourning...so of course you think that.


17,816 posted on 05/02/2007 6:57:15 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Jesus Lamb of God...Have Mercy On us")
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To: RobFromGa
I know you are but what am I?

Something that posting guidelines prohibit me from mentioning.

17,817 posted on 05/02/2007 6:57:19 AM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: RobFromGa
Tactics? I wish they were harsher and more ferocious. I want the conservatives to stand up, let their voices be heard. This one little thread is nothing. I want this country taken back and being mealy mouthed with innuendo, niceties, dialogue, consensus, compromise, and concern for feelings is not going to accomplish a thing. Never has and never will. This is nothing, and like I have said before - feelbads get hurt. I wish all conservatives stood by their principles and the rhetoric gets ratcheted up. So what if some cave, those that cave and want consensus and compromise were never conservatives anyway. Conservatives don’t need to be a part of the pansy party.
17,818 posted on 05/02/2007 6:58:13 AM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: dirtboy

Who are the hunters? Why did the crows lose their minds?


17,819 posted on 05/02/2007 6:58:40 AM PDT by RobFromGa (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: RobFromGa

I know Mickey Mouse pretty well. I can prolly hook you up with some ears, in lieu of wings, etc.

Signed,
Donald (Duck)


17,820 posted on 05/02/2007 7:01:01 AM PDT by don-o (We are "THEY")
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