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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Miss Marple
You know, despite what some have said on this thread, Howlin is NOT the leader of wideawakes.net. She is a moderator, period. MadIvan is the owner and leader of the site.

Kinda proves there IS life after FR, eh?

Howlin is no more the leader of wideawakes.net than mkjessup is the leader of Free Republic.

And note that I have never suggested anything of the sort.
16,541 posted on 04/30/2007 3:19:25 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: mutley

Sorry. But that one was too egregious to just let pass. I’m trying to be good, really! ;-)


16,542 posted on 04/30/2007 3:19:35 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Miss Marple

Okay. Rumors are like tumors, so my bad. I wish her luck nontheless.


16,543 posted on 04/30/2007 3:20:42 PM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: jedward

I love Free Republic.

Let’s lock this thread.


16,544 posted on 04/30/2007 3:20:56 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Yea!! Hey WorkerBee!


16,545 posted on 04/30/2007 3:21:43 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: si tacuissem

I see about four people on that list I’ll miss. And only one of those will I miss a lot. I’ve been through about four cycles of these now and threads that made this one look like a game of patty cake. The Westerfield threads gave us “The Smoky Backroom” they were so nasty. Pick any Schiavo thread or regular Crevo thread from a few years back and you’ll see some truly vile posting.

This will make 5 people that have vanished from this forum in the last 7 years that I really cared about. Only 2 of those have been zotted. I can’t count the number people that I thought were interesting or worthwhile that have been zotted or otherwise faded away. The funny thing is, the ones that disagreed me and locked horns with me in CIVIL DISCUSSION are the ones I miss the most. People who agree with you are dime a dozen on this forum. The gems are those that will argue with you without turning into Clymers (big time) while doing it.

< shrugs > Stick around another 5 years... Who knows, maybe one of these days you’ll see me ride the lightning. You may even cheer that on and draw some flames from some one that actually thinks this forum “lost a great conservative” by zotting me.


16,546 posted on 04/30/2007 3:22:30 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [This is some nasty...])
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To: sodpoodle
Pretty good sodpoodle.

With your expert psychoanalysis, to which category/s do you put the RunningWolf, :^)

16,547 posted on 04/30/2007 3:22:45 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: Petronski
I wasn't offended by the posted words, but I am able to recognize them as vulgar. You reveal a lot about yourself in this matter.

You reveal that you read more into something than is there Fred.

But hey, that's you. Fortunately my life isn't dependent upon what you do or do not think of me.

On to the future Fred.

It's time.
16,548 posted on 04/30/2007 3:23:19 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: commonguymd
That is all very eloquent but it doesn't answer my question. How could you tell she wasn't a witch?
16,549 posted on 04/30/2007 3:24:14 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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To: Wormwood; Jim Robinson

I noticed that it will be your last post as you said on DC. Lots of handclapping and such and I am sure you are amused. So be it. Not a terrific last post.


16,550 posted on 04/30/2007 3:24:25 PM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: ansel12; metmom; Wormwood

It’s more that some of us are having a hard time swallowing the massive dose of hypocrisy evident throughout this disgusting thread, right up to the “Awww, let the wounds heal! Can’t we all just get along?” end.


16,551 posted on 04/30/2007 3:25:07 PM PDT by DGray
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To: Miss Marple
I'm not leaving, although I am sure that there are quite a few who wish I would.

Bless you, MM!

Oh, I don't really support Guiliani, either, being more of a Romney type of person. I will, however, support whoever gets the nomination, even if it's McCain (whom I despise).

I don't support any of those, either. And I'd have a hard time voting for McCain -- for this campaign he's a born-again conservative

16,552 posted on 04/30/2007 3:25:15 PM PDT by CedarDave (Free Republic: Proudly purging members in the name of Idealogical Purity since 4/21/07)
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To: EternalVigilance
Sorry. But that one was too egregious to just let pass. I’m trying to be good, really! ;-)

I understand...really I do. But obscurity is now where those sentiments belong. Let it be so. In other words...fight your urges. LOL.
16,553 posted on 04/30/2007 3:25:41 PM PDT by mutley
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To: mkjessup

Awfully defensive, eh?

LOL


16,554 posted on 04/30/2007 3:26:24 PM PDT by Petronski (Fred.)
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To: Petronski

Whatever.


16,555 posted on 04/30/2007 3:27:31 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: jedward

Howdy JW my FRiend.


16,556 posted on 04/30/2007 3:30:34 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Anti Islam and a Global Warming denier - piss on Islam)
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To: EternalVigilance
It’s more that some of us are having a hard time swallowing the massive dose of hypocrisy evident throughout this disgusting thread, right up to the “Awww, let the wounds heal! Can’t we all just get along?” end.

For instance, the above post was hard for me to let pass, but the smallness of the intent, made it possible for me.
16,557 posted on 04/30/2007 3:30:42 PM PDT by mutley
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To: mutley

LOL...


16,558 posted on 04/30/2007 3:31:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Miss Marple
MadIvan is the owner and leader of the site

Curious. Mad Ivan is British, correct? I am surprised that the infancy of the GOP would be such a source of inspiration with him.

Somewhat like one of us exploring the roots of "Barkers". Another chunk of bizarre in a weird world...

16,559 posted on 04/30/2007 3:31:30 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [This is some nasty...])
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To: EternalVigilance
That is good, EV, and a post I will agree with. Those who bash the President are unfeeling and ignorant, and those who refuse to defend him are cowards.

President Bush isn't perfect. He is doing the best he can under unimaginable attacks both at home and abroad, while dealing with a ruthless and evil enemy who desires the destruction of this nation.

All of us should pray for him every day, like our lives depended on it...for in fact, they do.

16,560 posted on 04/30/2007 3:32:51 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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