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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Jim Robinson

16,421 posted on 04/30/2007 2:13:51 PM PDT by RobFromGa (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Have you looked at their legs in that picture?


16,422 posted on 04/30/2007 2:15:09 PM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: metmom
Ahh, I got a chuckle out of it. A bunch of boohoo stuff and negativity. bwahahahahaha.

I completely understand what Jim is trying to do. Create focus, unite and give FR a sense of direction. Some people got bloodied and hurt along the way and that is too bad, but in running any company, institution or business it is necessary to have clear concise goals, objectives, direction and focus to move forward. That doesn’t mean dissent is bad or restricted or discouraged. Healthy debate is good, but the message is clear and the direction is set.

16,423 posted on 04/30/2007 2:15:43 PM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: Brit_Guy
Oh, so all that is what ‘conservative’ means. Thanks for explaining chump.

Well, at least that's how this site's founder describes it, bloke.

16,424 posted on 04/30/2007 2:15:45 PM PDT by airborne (Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
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To: EternalVigilance

BUMP!


16,425 posted on 04/30/2007 2:15:47 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: dirtboy
dirtboy, with all due respect, wondering about how some people can come unhinged over an internet site (Clown Posse) while ignoring the unhinged behavior of some on THIS site is a bit much.

Some people do take things personally, particularly when they are called vulgar names. Some people are funny that way.

16,426 posted on 04/30/2007 2:16:07 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: ansel12

Looks like they’re a buncha bowlegged farmers who are more used to ridin’ than marchin’! ;-)


16,427 posted on 04/30/2007 2:16:30 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: tiredoflaundry

Thank you too!


16,428 posted on 04/30/2007 2:16:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: metmom
LOL! Yeah...my oldest son came to the office today with Sabres magnetic decals on the doors of his Hummer2.

They're kicking butt and taking names this playoff season.

16,429 posted on 04/30/2007 2:17:02 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: RobFromGa

That’s a keeper! I’m envious ;’}


16,430 posted on 04/30/2007 2:17:18 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: dirtboy
Agreed. Since we need every soldier for whatever is coming at us next, it's sad to see all the factions and petty differences defeat us more successfully than our enemies.

Every conservative I've ever met has been a disappointment on some issue. But only a Democrat would steal my green sweater. Bastard!

16,431 posted on 04/30/2007 2:19:03 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Miss Marple
dirtboy, with all due respect, wondering about how some people can come unhinged over an internet site (Clown Posse) while ignoring the unhinged behavior of some on THIS site is a bit much.

MM, have you read about some of the antics at CP? I've heard they literally worked to try and get some of their "enemies" fired from their jobs.

Some people do take things personally, particularly when they are called vulgar names. Some people are funny that way.

Other folks literally see other posters and factions as enemies to be defeated, instead of just letting the occasional flame war run off their backs like most folks here. That factionalizing is taking it too far and leads to events like we've seen over the last couple of weeks.

16,432 posted on 04/30/2007 2:19:46 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: Jim Robinson

“I’m hoping most of those who are leaving have left.”

Mr. Robinson, you may have missed my post, #15,026, in which I requested that my name be removed from FR’s membership list, so I again request that you cancel my account here.

Thank you. barset


16,433 posted on 04/30/2007 2:20:17 PM PDT by Barset
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To: NautiNurse

You make good points as well NautiNurse.


16,434 posted on 04/30/2007 2:20:45 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Spyder
Calling people a$$wipes because they disagree with you is also dirty politics.

I have not used that word EVER on this forum, and I will not now or in the future.

Trying to force your version of what the laws “should be,” not what they are,

OK, so in your world, my backing candidates that will enact laws that I agree with and repeal those that I find abhorrent is somehow "force"? Funny, I thought voting for those I agree with and speaking up about those candidates I disagree with to be "representative government" and "freedom of speech". Guess I really is stoopid.

purges, etc., etc., THAT is what I mean by Torquemada tactics.

And I would suppose going to some ones party and whizzing in the punch bowl warrants a kindly offer from the host to poop on the carpet?
I don't think I'll invite you to my upcoming B-day cookout party...

16,435 posted on 04/30/2007 2:21:25 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [This is some nasty...])
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To: stephenjohnbanker

You are welcome!


16,436 posted on 04/30/2007 2:21:35 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (The greatest danger to our troops is the Congress of the United States.)
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To: Deb
There were a lot of dustups in 1999 as well. The year before the primaries is full-contact.

Plus, right now there is a lot of tension between conservatives and pragmatists who think the GOP has to shift leftward to win. I personally don't see it - to the contrary, I think the GOP's rudderless leftward drift is the primary reason it lost Congress in the 2006 elections.

16,437 posted on 04/30/2007 2:21:38 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: dirtboy

16,438 posted on 04/30/2007 2:22:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Barset

That is too bad Barset. I enjoyed what you had to write always. I wish you would reconsider.


16,439 posted on 04/30/2007 2:22:46 PM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: dirtboy

16,440 posted on 04/30/2007 2:23:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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