Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[mystery-ak]

WTH is happening???

[Miss Marple]

I am sorry if you got your feelings hurt by Howlin, but it was the VULGARITY of mkjessup’s post that irritated me, regardless of who it was about. Can you understand that?

[Kevmo]

Well, ok then. I guess I am a little bit curious about you and why you’d be so upset that JimRob chooses to refocus this socon site as a... socon site.

What do you think of his latest post on this thread?

It’s totally unreasonable to ask any conservative who loves God, America, family, decency, liberty and freedom to support such a disgrace of a leftist/socialist and national security risk for president.

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Anyone who can’t see why FR outright rejects this man and doesn’t want to see his supporters pushing pro-Rudy propaganda while attacking, smearing, sliming, running down and disparaging conservatism and conservative candidates, the pro-life, pro-family and pro-gun movements and our conservative posters is blind to what FR and conservatism is all about.

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I’m bookmarking for later, gotta go out.

[EternalVigilance]

you run off better Freepers than you.

Somehow I have a hard time believing that you've examined the quality of the posts of those who have left.

[DCPatriot]

It wouldn’t be so hard for me to consider that if I didn’t think the Rudemeister wasn’t her twin in all the ways that count...

Even if they are twins...you still are going to get stuck with one or the other.

Wouldn't you like to have a say?? Afterall, with one you get at least 4 years of Bill Clinton, and all the low-down dirty rats that stole the silverware and glued the 'w' key on all the keyboards. LOL!

And socialized medicine...and blanket amnesty with an IN YOUR FACE flip of the bird.

And we're going to welcome an Iran with nukes.

No mam...they are not twins.

[ScreamingFist]

Getting banned from FR is always more of an honor then just leaving on any of those anti-FR sites

I've been personally asked by Jim-Rob to leave.....times change and I see his points more clearly now......don't toss members because they don't match your philosophy....currently...

[Kevmo]

Cool. Thanks. I agree. Just caught your post on my way out.

[mkjessup]

I just saw this post about Nopardons and Howlin. It is one of your typical vulgar comments and really reflects poorly on this forum, which is suppposed to be family friendly (or so I thought).

There was nothing vulgar about it.

It might be Sunday Ms. Marple, but this ain't Sunday school, this is the Bug Zapper(c) thread, and when trolls get zapped, they are fair game and we celebrate.

[RexTheRunt]

Do you think it’s possible to be a conservative and an atheist?

[Not A Snowbird]

WTH is happening???

Save yourself. Borrow your son's flak jacket and find a hole.

How's your son doing, BTW?

[Knitting A Conundrum]

I’m not going to play what ifs.

People are projecting a lot of hope on Rudy. And it’s not particularly borne out by his past record.

I don’t trust projecting my hopes onto anybody.

I’m going to work for other folks. I’ll cross that bridge of what if when and if the time gets here.

[sodpoodle]

Main Entry: vulgar
Part of Speech: adjective 1
Definition: offensive

[Wormwood]

Do you think it’s possible to be a conservative and an atheist?

Now that's a good question!

[gpapa]

Here is commentary #2 from WA. More to follow.

From abt. 27-Apr-2007

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nobody is better than anyone else

eagle's talon

You put your finger on it. That's what I was feeling... "but, I'm pro life", I kept having to protest, "I'm an NRA member - I carry".

...But, the brown shirts are relentless.

Gee, it would appear I have some issues.

[ScreamingFist]

WTH is happening???

Honestly? Bunch of two year old noobs are hunting old timers......I have no respect for them.....old timers are bailing because of the insults......the rudy supporters were gone 3 days ago.......but the noobs think this is a purge...go figure...

[Delphinium]

she’s just agitating

That's her, you got the right person.

[DCPatriot]

Well, ok then. I guess I am a little bit curious about you and why you’d be so upset that JimRob chooses to refocus this socon site as a... socon site.

Please go away.

I support JimRob 110%.

I have just lost all my FRiends.

You pick up the paper one day and read that they're all gone!

[Miss Marple]

You really are a little, vulgar worm.

Get over yourself.

[mkjessup]

Tell me about your FReeper and conservative activities outside of keyboard bully tactics and taunts in this forum.

No. What I do outside of this forum is none of your damn business, and I don't account to, nor do I answer to you. Your demands to 'know' what I (or others) do to advance the cause of conservatism are quite frankly tacky, as tacky as other posters who make demands to 'know' whether or not other Freepers financially contribute to FR.

Just because you don't see a profile page that trumpets 'outside-FR' activities doesn't mean that the Freeper in question (be it me or anybody else) is doing nothing.

You assigned that 'Minister of Conservative Purity' label on me as a sneer and an insult, but I'm loving it instead of being annoyed by it. But your demands to 'know' what others do to promote conservatism and/or FR suggest that YOU have appointed *yourself* as the 'Mistress of Verified Conservative Activism', and unfortunately for you, there isn't anything very funny about hectoring Freepers as to what they 'do' for the cause.

Surely as you proudly wear the title Minister of Conservative Purity™, you must have attended FReeper events, CPAC, or perhaps even the Gathering of Eagles, March for Justice, etc. , over the years. Please, we would love for you to share your conservative activism stories.

Who's this 'we' NautiNurse, you got a mouse in your pocket?

[Dog Gone]

Jim. I'm just thinking that it's a bit premature given we haven't had a single Republican candidate debate yet. Perhaps you've fully assessed all the candidates and have selected one, but I haven't.

Newt is my favorite, but I'm not sure he'll run. Thompson looks like he's running, but maybe not.

Rudy is the GOP frontrunner, and I'd like to know why. Sure, I know the general reasons about "America's Mayor", blah blah blah, but I don't see the point of utterly dismissing him here and chilling the debate. For Pete's sake, it's not an emergency. Nobody is even voting this year.

We've never been unable to collectively, as a forum, get to the truth about anything or anyone. We shine the light on everyone, hopefully in a civil manner, and all make more informed decisions as a result. A few of my friend are no longer here, primarily because they got on the wrong side of what could have been a healthy deabte.

Maybe they were wrong. Maybe they didn't handle it well. But maybe they could have been persuaded by the collective intelligence this forum has always demonstrated in the past.

The glee in stifling dissent and the herding of long time members to the bugzapper is unprecedented at FR.

I pray that this forum calms down and that sanity returns. No votes will be cast for a very long time. That gives us plenty of time to make a case for or against any candidate.

I am committed to making this forum survive and flourish. I don't think that job got any easier in the past couple of weeks. It's been ugly, and it didn't need to happen in April 2007.