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To: Jim Robinson
Jim. I'm just thinking that it's a bit premature given we haven't had a single Republican candidate debate yet. Perhaps you've fully assessed all the candidates and have selected one, but I haven't.

Newt is my favorite, but I'm not sure he'll run. Thompson looks like he's running, but maybe not.

Rudy is the GOP frontrunner, and I'd like to know why. Sure, I know the general reasons about "America's Mayor", blah blah blah, but I don't see the point of utterly dismissing him here and chilling the debate. For Pete's sake, it's not an emergency. Nobody is even voting this year.

We've never been unable to collectively, as a forum, get to the truth about anything or anyone. We shine the light on everyone, hopefully in a civil manner, and all make more informed decisions as a result. A few of my friend are no longer here, primarily because they got on the wrong side of what could have been a healthy deabte.

Maybe they were wrong. Maybe they didn't handle it well. But maybe they could have been persuaded by the collective intelligence this forum has always demonstrated in the past.

The glee in stifling dissent and the herding of long time members to the bugzapper is unprecedented at FR.

I pray that this forum calms down and that sanity returns. No votes will be cast for a very long time. That gives us plenty of time to make a case for or against any candidate.

I am committed to making this forum survive and flourish. I don't think that job got any easier in the past couple of weeks. It's been ugly, and it didn't need to happen in April 2007.

15,220 posted on 04/29/2007 4:13:18 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

What is premature? To outright reject a man who is antithetical to everything I believe and hold dear? I outright reject Bill Clinton for president for the same reasons. And Al Gore. And John Kerry. And Hillary Clinton. And I ouright reject Rudy Giuliani. He’s out! Kaput! Fini! I pray his shadow never darkens the threshhold of the White House and his abortionist, feminist, homosexualist, socialist supporting butt never sits in Ronald Reagan’s office. And I couldn’t care less who objects to my rejection or why. It’s complete and absolute rejection. He’s outta here!!


15,260 posted on 04/29/2007 4:32:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Dog Gone; Jim Robinson
The glee in stifling dissent and the herding of long time members to the bugzapper is unprecedented at FR.

Nobody was "herded". Nobody was killed. If you remember correctly, it was your side that had the "glee" in the actual killing of Terri Schiavo.

15,292 posted on 04/29/2007 4:57:49 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Dog Gone
Rudy is the GOP frontrunner, and I'd like to know why. Sure, I know the general reasons about "America's Mayor", blah blah blah, but I don't see the point of utterly dismissing him here and chilling the debate. For Pete's sake, it's not an emergency. Nobody is even voting this year.

Thank you--the voice of reason. You are so right.

It is a shame, what's happened here. A tragedy, actually.

15,362 posted on 04/29/2007 5:39:11 PM PDT by proud American in Canada ("We can, and we will prevail.")
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To: Dog Gone
Rudy is the GOP frontrunner, and I'd like to know why. Sure, I know the general reasons about "America's Mayor", blah blah blah, but I don't see the point of utterly dismissing him here and chilling the debate. For Pete's sake, it's not an emergency. Nobody is even voting this year.

DG, with all due respect, you are being disingenious here.

When freepers started flocking to Duncan Hunter, you said that, given the front-loaded primary schedule, that someone had to be a contender sooner rather than later.

Now you're saying that no one is even voting this year.

You can't have it both ways.

15,374 posted on 04/29/2007 5:41:58 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: Dog Gone
The glee in stifling dissent and the herding of long time members to the bugzapper is unprecedented at FR.

hint: don't fly towards the light. Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

15,449 posted on 04/29/2007 6:30:22 PM PDT by vox_freedom (John 16:2 yea, the hour come, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God)
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