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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: conservative in nyc
It turns out that some here seem to think "anti-FReeper" means FReepers or former FReepers who post on websites that those FReepers don't like.
What would you like to pretend that statement was, in order for my reply to fit your new version of events?
14,601 posted on 04/29/2007 12:53:44 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: Kevmo

Good explanation thanks.


14,602 posted on 04/29/2007 12:54:01 AM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: gpapa; Mojave

“They apparently do not wish to have non-members and casual internet viewers to look at their chatty comments.”

LOL!

Well...I wonder “why”?

They said they weren’t an AF site.


14,603 posted on 04/29/2007 12:54:21 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: EternalVigilance
“Thank you for standing up for me. There have been times when damned few have done so in this long war with these conservative-hating scumbags.”

You usually don’t appear to need help. If it makes you feel any better nobody defends much of anybody around here. We’re all just screennames, so I don’t take anything personally. Well almost...

14,604 posted on 04/29/2007 12:54:45 AM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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To: Rheo; Nick Danger; Interesting Times
...It is not their patriotism; it is their judgment that has been so sorely lacking.

I was thrilled to see Zell Miller's quote on your profile page! I had the immense pleasure of meeting him at CPAC in 2004, a few months prior to his appearance at the RNC. The following year, he again attended CPAC, and presented the SwiftVets the Courage Under Fire Award. Magnificent!

Strolling down memory lane...here is a photo of Admiral Hoffman grinning for my camera, along with John O'Neill and Bill Franke when they received the 2005 award. Lots more photos to share with you another day. Thanks for bringing back some great memories!


14,605 posted on 04/29/2007 12:54:48 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Action speaks louder than words but not nearly as often.)
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To: gpapa
They apparently do not wish to have non-members and casual internet viewers to look at their chatty comments

Hello gpapa, hope you are well. I do not speak for all....but when work is to be done...sometimes a quiet place is where you do it.

14,606 posted on 04/29/2007 12:55:32 AM PDT by Rheo
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To: Luke21

Thanks Luke.


14,607 posted on 04/29/2007 12:57:23 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: IrishRainy

Who is what?


14,608 posted on 04/29/2007 12:57:50 AM PDT by gpapa
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Hey Kid!,,,Git Off That Roof !!...;0)

Oh, I'm not on any roof today. There's a LOT going on out there right now. LOL

The good guys are kicking some BUTT!! It's noisy as all get-out out there, but most of it is GOOD noise.

Prayers up for our troops' safety and success.

14,609 posted on 04/29/2007 12:58:57 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Quiet Down Out There!)
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To: Allegra

Roger-That,,,hunker down...be safe,,,

Prayers Up for all of ya’ll...

GOD Bless...


14,610 posted on 04/29/2007 1:02:57 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: BykrBayb
What would you like to pretend that statement was, in order for my reply to fit your new version of events?

A backhanded slap on my part at those who think everyone who posts at WideAwakes or similar sites is an "anti-FReeper" or that those sites are "anti-Freeper" sites? Do you realize some very thoughtful FReepers in good standing are members of WideAwakes? Does that make them "anti-FReepers"? Isn't that insulting to them? Is name calling really necessary?
14,611 posted on 04/29/2007 1:03:06 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: mkjessup; rbmillerjr
If either of you want the NautiNurse self-appointed "Minister of Conservative Purity" to mediate this dispute, just ping me.

You are more than fashionably late to this party. Your comrade needed you hours ago when he fell over into a crumpled heap on the floor. He hasn't been able to climb back up to his feet since then. He keeps stumbling and showing is hind side to the crowd.

14,612 posted on 04/29/2007 1:03:29 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Action speaks louder than words but not nearly as often.)
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To: conservative in nyc

Yes, and definitions to go along with those names.


14,613 posted on 04/29/2007 1:05:14 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

And watch out for the bad guys.


14,614 posted on 04/29/2007 1:05:18 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jedward

Got That Rite...


14,615 posted on 04/29/2007 1:08:16 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: NautiNurse
Your comrade needed you hours ago when he fell over into a crumpled heap on the floor.

That is so lame. Without the posse, it just ain't the same...
14,616 posted on 04/29/2007 1:08:42 AM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: BykrBayb
Yes, to which question(s):

1) Do you realize some very thoughtful FReepers in good standing are members of WideAwakes?
2) Does that make them “anti-FReepers”?
3) Isn’t that insulting to them?
4) Is name calling really necessary?

14,617 posted on 04/29/2007 1:09:03 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: dukakis kerry the dream team

“That is so lame. Without the posse, it just ain’t the same...”

Hey, that rhymed :)


14,618 posted on 04/29/2007 1:09:31 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: MOgirl; rbmillerjr; NautiNurse
Hello, That is over the line. NautiNurse does not deserve that.
MOgirl


1.) No, it wasn't 'over the line'.

2.) NautiNurse is a big girl and can take care of herself.

3.) As the Minister of Conservative Purity*, I fully approve of rbmillerjr, his posts, and his solid ideological view of the world.

You may all rise.

* appointed by NautiNurse, April 2007
14,619 posted on 04/29/2007 1:12:40 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: conservative in nyc

The fact is Darwin Central is a more open site than WA. There they explicitly state their disdain for FR and gloat over the exodus that is now occurring. They have a thread dedicated to that proposition that is 67 pages long. I should note that most of the former Freepers have exited quietly without accompanying rants against other members who are still here. You can not expect principled conservatives to not respond when confronted with such ranters, and sometimes with harsh language if need be. I admit some of the flaming has gone over the top and has caused some solid conservatives to leave, at least temporarily in protest. In fact a number of Freepers who signed up at WA are continuing to post at FR, and are just staying away from the political wars for now.


14,620 posted on 04/29/2007 1:13:02 AM PDT by gpapa
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