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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: JCEccles

***snicker***


14,201 posted on 04/28/2007 9:44:04 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: woofie
Interesting tagline. No one has a God given right to abuse JR's forum to promote anyone he doesn't want promoted on his site. Try to remember whose site you are a guest of, and the rest should fall into place.
14,202 posted on 04/28/2007 9:44:23 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: rbmillerjr

No ...I aint going anywhere unless they pull the plug.

You are pathetic


14,203 posted on 04/28/2007 9:44:38 PM PDT by woofie (Only God can decide who is a liberal)
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To: floriduh voter

I’m done celebrating candidates as if they are superstars. They are just the ones who got their hands on the most money... I want an underdog with common sense. Wouldn’t that be nice?
***Duncan Hunter Bump.


14,204 posted on 04/28/2007 9:44:48 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: ansel12
Is there an actual group of people that contact each other

Of course they do. Wolves run in packs.
14,205 posted on 04/28/2007 9:44:56 PM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: jedward

Pick up at post 13,401 bookmark......****SIGH****


14,206 posted on 04/28/2007 9:45:10 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: EternalVigilance

“He was trying to introduce the idea of eliminating the federal income tax to the inner city black community, you liberal dufus.”

He got caught flip-flopping on a race card tactic. I just call it like I see it. No disrespect to Mr Keyes, politics is ugly.


14,207 posted on 04/28/2007 9:46:52 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: ansel12

Three questions in one sentence. LOL

But I’ve been here long enough to know the Harpies pretty well and their SOP`s. They’re not gonna let the distance between two forums stop them from attacking people. Take my word for it.


14,208 posted on 04/28/2007 9:47:57 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: metmom

Well put your boots on, it gets a little muddy.


14,209 posted on 04/28/2007 9:48:13 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: rbmillerjr

Well said.

Keep for later reference:

If conservatives were polling high now, if the war was more popular...you limp wristed weasles would be on here using your “fly with the wind” style of politics and flaming the liberal side. You’re worse than liberals, you have no principle. You are Clintonian in your politics - just happen to have an R instead of a D in front of your name.


14,210 posted on 04/28/2007 9:48:34 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: woofie

“No ...I aint going anywhere unless they pull the plug.”

LOL, you are not important enough to pull the plug on...I pasted all of your little one line rants today, in sum they don’t add up to more than a few chuckles at your transparency...so do try to avoid the light wolfie


14,211 posted on 04/28/2007 9:49:02 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell them I'm comin...and hell's comin with me"!)
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To: FreeReign
The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments protect human life against the federal government.

Idiotic. The Fourteenth Amendment clarifies the Fifth Amendment, and couldn't be clearer on this subject.. Don't you know how to read?

Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

What is it about that that you can't understand?

14,212 posted on 04/28/2007 9:49:03 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: Lando Lincoln

Well said, sir.


14,213 posted on 04/28/2007 9:50:55 PM PDT by Chena (Why settle for less when you could have the best! Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: Bigh4u2
Thank you,

I hardly think my response was "snarky". You think it is "Freepercide" - fine. I happen to think diferently. That is the way it must be then. If I have ofended your sensibilities - well, that is okay too, I guess. I have loved this place. I hate freedom of "choice" as it it defined and as it is known. I hate the acrimony, the hostility of this thread. I hate the celebratory tone that is taken every time that someone is gone - for whatever reason or rationalization. But I have come to know some of these people over years and thousands of comments. For you to judge them over their last how-ever-many posts is patently wrong. It is sad. It is wrong. It is punitive. And it is telling.

I will tell you again - Free Republic is powerful. It has a voice. And, it has been diminished. I am grieving because I, along with many of the departed, celebrated being here. The witch hunt must stop. It must. If you wish to flush out those who think "differently" you will find only an echo chamber left behind. Tell me that isn't wrong. Good grief, I'm appealing to everyone's sense of thought, everyone's sense of fairness. My gosh, there are scorecards and updates on the purge. Collectively these people have posted thousands and thousands of threads and comments. They hate the far-left, the liberalism that threatens our immediate well-being. And, I must say this, despite my hesitancy to speak for others:

They view our most immediate threat as the desire of our apocalyptic destruction from the jihadists - yours, mine, our loved ones, the born and unborn. The capitulation of the left to those forces --- threatens our undoing. None , none of the departed are capitulators to the left. Instead, there are those who "woo-hoo" every time someone is eliminated from our wonderful "forum". Please, I appeal to your sense of reason. Is this right? Surely there is room for some reasonable discourse.

So I say.... I hope to contribute to the dialog about the most important matters facing our world as we know it. I hope there is room for me. I hope there can be commonality as we move forward in this election cycle. We face the most perilous times ever. We need to measure everything against that. To do otherwise, in my singular view, is to do everything we know and love a disservice. The "woo-hooers" are misguided.

Make no mistake, the power and the impact of Free Republic is diminished with every single "woo-hoo". Please, call for a stop to this nonsense.

14,214 posted on 04/28/2007 9:50:56 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: woofie
Image and video hosting by TinyPic ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JR opened a can of worms that is very destructive. This is a very sad time for this site. Yep,JR has the power to do what he wants , but its clear that in this situation he doesn't know how to use it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ BULL$H*T!!!~~~IT"S HIS CAN~~~Roger-That Destructive!!!
14,215 posted on 04/28/2007 9:51:06 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Jim Robinson
Hang in there Jim, liberals or those with no conscience (redundant?) will always try to convince conservatives that they are out of touch, that conservatives are the ‘problem’, liberals are always the ones when they don’t get their way start saying things like, “their ashamed of America”, just like some are saying they are ‘ashamed of FR’.
BS, pure and simple, they want to take FR and make it something else, they want the GOP to be something else, just as long as it goes their way. How dare you stand up for conservatism on a conservative site..you big bully /s Hang in there and keep the faith.
14,216 posted on 04/28/2007 9:51:17 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America ...Hunter '08.)
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To: GodBlessUSA

You’re playing some weird game
flying close to the flame

You ain’t no way tard
but you might be a rutard


14,217 posted on 04/28/2007 9:52:07 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: conservative in nyc

“What I’m LEAST interested in is participating in a forum that descends into an echo chamber because a very small group of FReepers decides to bully those who dare stray an inch from the party line.”

Well if you’re new, you’re forgiven. But I’m pretty sure you were here, so that you’re selective memory seems to forget that many of these trollish Rudybots were the bullies - mass attacks on anybody who dared go against them.


14,218 posted on 04/28/2007 9:52:10 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell them I'm comin...and hell's comin with me"!)
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To: commonguymd

You wouldn’t believe....

Check it out for yourself.


14,219 posted on 04/28/2007 9:52:16 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: jedward

You obviously didn’t read the interview I posted earlier, either. If you did, you would see that his position did not change.


14,220 posted on 04/28/2007 9:53:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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