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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: dmw

Naw, JR refused to close Hildy’s account. He told her, “opus denied,” which means that she has to have the fortitude not to come back.

That would be mighty hard for me.


13,461 posted on 04/28/2007 2:51:37 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: JCEccles

I ask those of you who are able to stand back and look at yourselves ...It aint pretty.


13,462 posted on 04/28/2007 2:52:06 PM PDT by woofie (Only God can decide who is a liberal)
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To: Pinkbell
Thank you Pinkbell. Having that info about judges will be, well, informative. :)
13,463 posted on 04/28/2007 2:52:06 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, Past, Present and Future, God Bless You and Thank You!. It Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: dmw
Come on....it was a bad choice of analogy.

But the message was right on target.

In order to win in 2008 we're going to need tons of Reagan Bluedogs crossing over to our side.

ESPECIALLY when you consider the religious right is threatening to stay home entirely.

That's what she meant. We have to appeal to the majority to save this country...hell...to SAVE the free world.

13,464 posted on 04/28/2007 2:53:34 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: woofie

Stand tall, refuse to be put down, and do the right thing, that’s what I think he would do.


13,465 posted on 04/28/2007 2:53:35 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: jedward
Well, Jedward, You may not have seen it that way. However, I did, and so have many of my FRiends. :)
13,466 posted on 04/28/2007 2:54:10 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA (US Troops, Past, Present and Future, God Bless You and Thank You!. It Prayers said for our Heroes!)
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To: DCPatriot
>>>>>>Regardless of what is posted over there today, Howlin assured me that WA is in NO WAY, an anti-Freeper site. Bottom line, I believe her.

LOL What a gullible soul you are.

13,467 posted on 04/28/2007 2:54:31 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Where is the “updated” banned list?


13,468 posted on 04/28/2007 2:55:10 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Skywarner; GodBlessUSA; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"With all due respect, If I invite someone to my home, I usually respect that they may differ in opinion. I leave it at that, not cheer if hubby kicks them out, not insult them or make statements to push the issue, that may make them more vocal. Some may deserve to be banned but I don’t think many did. Hopefully, some were suspended and will return. Both sides need to be more respectful. IMO"

As pointed out about the guests in question

"the visiting houseguest who brusquely commandeers the contents of your liquor cabinet; vomits noisily into the aquarium; and (when rightfully instructed by their host to cease such loutish behavior) spits curses at the wife and children."

This is a fair analogy. You may embrace "situational ethics" in lieu of traditional morality. Many others do not.

13,469 posted on 04/28/2007 2:55:21 PM PDT by MrEdd (Dogs think they're human, Cats think they're Gods.)
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To: dmw; All

It’s NOT Howlin’s site. It’s MadIvan’s...who IMHO, was a Prince of a gentleman in this forum.


13,470 posted on 04/28/2007 2:55:27 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Reagan Man
"Like so many others, you're under some illusion. If someone wants to promote liberalism and oppose conservatism, then FR is not for them. If you read back through this thread, you'll see exactly what FR is all about."

Once again, I'm also including fellow CONSERVATIVES who have been driven away from FR defending those who "promote liberalism and oppose conservatism." I guess that means that they weren't "true" conservatives, after all then, right?

"Keep pushing the envelope, anything is possible."

I will, at least until I'm banned, too.
13,471 posted on 04/28/2007 2:55:57 PM PDT by Skywarner (The U.S. Armed Forces... Producers of FREEDOM for over 200 years!!)
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To: JCEccles
Now that is funny!
13,472 posted on 04/28/2007 2:56:24 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: DCPatriot
In order to win in 2008 we're going to need tons of Reagan Bluedogs crossing over to our side.

They came over because they were pro-God, pro-life, and pro-gun.

As I've said a thousand times: RINOs can always be counted on to learn the one hundred and eighty degree wrong lesson from any given set of events.

13,473 posted on 04/28/2007 2:56:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Hey Workerbee. A little slow because, yes, I’m reading all of the posts :)


13,474 posted on 04/28/2007 2:57:06 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

“substitute decadent pleasures to keep us entertained and not caring.”

It has been a long time since I’ve heard that, but it is still true.


13,475 posted on 04/28/2007 2:57:53 PM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: woofie
ask yourself what would RR do?

Run as hard as he could against the RINO.

13,476 posted on 04/28/2007 2:58:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: woofie
I ask those of you who are able to stand back and look at yourselves ...It aint pretty

I do not doubt that viewed from inside the private confines of your mental theater, we aren't very appealing. Being very well acquainted with your posting history I can only say I'm honored that you don't find us very "pretty."

13,477 posted on 04/28/2007 2:58:25 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: woofie
I ask those of you who are able to stand back and look at yourselves ...It aint pretty.

Cleaning the soot out of your chimney can cause your face to get a bit smudged, but if you don't, it can catch fire and burn your house down.
13,478 posted on 04/28/2007 2:58:27 PM PDT by dukakis kerry the dream team
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To: EternalVigilance

Yes, Ronald Reagan would run as hard as he could against the RINO. But, he wouldn’t take down the party doing it.


13,479 posted on 04/28/2007 2:59:08 PM PDT by Skywarner (The U.S. Armed Forces... Producers of FREEDOM for over 200 years!!)
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To: Pinkbell
Hildy requested to have her account closed, and Jim responded with a post that said, “Opus Denied”.

I find this tremendously amusing. Still chuckling today...

13,480 posted on 04/28/2007 2:59:18 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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