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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: rbmillerjr
"WA is terrible, who designed that crap."

I disagree.

Whoever designed that forum software did a fair job.

The "crap" part came when Ivan got hold of it.

12,541 posted on 04/27/2007 6:46:56 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Brad's Gramma
"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places." - Ephesians 6:12
12,543 posted on 04/27/2007 6:47:19 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<-----------My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: Enosh

“Whoever designed that forum software did a fair job.”

You’re too kind ;)


12,544 posted on 04/27/2007 6:48:48 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: elkfersupper

One entry found for catharsis.
Main Entry: ca·thar·sis
Pronunciation: k&-’thär-s&s
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural ca·thar·ses /-”sEz/
Etymology: New Latin, from Greek katharsis,
from kathairein - to cleanse, purge, from katharos
1 See PURGATION
2 a: purification or purgation of the emotions
(as pity and fear) primarily through art
b: a purification or purgation that brings about spiritual renewal
or release from tension
3 elimination of a complex by bringing it to consciousness
and affording it expression


12,545 posted on 04/27/2007 6:49:01 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: EternalVigilance

“It is my proposal that every conservative on FR makes the effort immediately to recruit at least five of their proven conservative friends to come here and join us as we prepare to do battle in 2008.”

Will do. My proposal is that everyday we send at least one email out to our elected & party officials and one to the MSM spotlighting our favorite conservatives as real contenders for political consideration. Those who can spare more time to this can up the number of daily emails accordingly. The important thing is to get active and give -even if it’s only five minutes a day - to the conservative effort.


12,546 posted on 04/27/2007 6:49:19 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...catch more flies with honey than vinegar)
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To: Fiddlstix

Well done! I’m listening to the speech again right now.


12,547 posted on 04/27/2007 6:49:59 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<-----------My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: Fiddlstix

“There is not choice for silence! There is no choice for silence!”


12,548 posted on 04/27/2007 6:51:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<-----------My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: Spiff

Ping


12,549 posted on 04/27/2007 6:52:14 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: mkjessup
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The shadows look ok to me, and the sunlight appears to be coming from Ron’s right (how appropriate! ;). The grassy areas on either side of the sidewalk mostly match each other.

I wonder how is it possible to get a short shadow on the left leg as compared to a long shadow his right leg, which seems to go to a different direction?

12,550 posted on 04/27/2007 6:53:41 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: Fiddlstix

Alan Keyes:

And we as Republicans are going to have to decide again, as we had to decide in the past, whether we shall only speak of justice and speak of principle, or whether we shall stand and fight for them! Whether we shall quote from the words of the Declaration of Independence with real conviction, or whether we shall take that document and throw it on the ash heap of history as we adopt the message of those who say that we can stand silent in the face of injustice!

When it comes to deciding whether we shall stand by the great principle that declares that all human beings are created equal, and endowed by their Creator with the right to life, there is no choice for silence!

There is no choice for silence!!

And I can tell you right now that those who are recommending that we pull the pro-life plank out of the Republican Party platform are recommending, as some people decided in the Whig Party in the years before the Civil War, that they would be silent on the great issue of principle that faced this nation—we shall be silent.

And you see what happened to the Whigs.

The Republican Party grew up as a party aimed at dealing with that moral irresponsibility, standing on the principle that Lincoln articulated, that you cannot have the right to do what is wrong.

And I’ll tell you, we have heard a lot of people tonight. They talk about the money, and they talk about the budget. But you and I both know, if we’re willing to look ourselves in the eye, what the truth is. Why is it that we spend so much money on welfare and illegitimacy? Why is it that we spend so much money on crime and violence in our streets? Why is it even that we spend so much money dealing with the problems of irresponsible behavior that contributes to the decline of the health of this nation? I think you all know in your hearts what the real answer is.

We don’t have money problems. We have moral problems. And it’s time we stood up and faced that truth!

And I don’t know how we’re going to face that truth, if, as was suggested here today, we can look our daughters in the eye and tell them that it is somehow consistent with freedom for them to trample on the human rights of their unborn offspring. We’re going to have to find the courage one of these days to tell people that freedom is not an easy discipline. Freedom is not a choice for those who are lazy in their heart and in their respect for their own moral capacities.

Freedom requires that, at the end of the day, you accept the constraint that is required, the respect for the laws of nature and nature’s God that say unequivocally that your daughters do not have the right to do what is wrong, that our sons do not have the right to do what is wrong. They do not have the right to steal bread from the mouths of the innocent; they do not have the right to steal life from the womb of the unborn.

And I’ll tell you, some people may say that if we stand up and we speak out and we fight for that principle, we’ll be dividing the Republican Party. But I don’t think so. This Party was born on a clear commitment to principle. This party was born of those who had the courage to stand before the American people and, in the face of the threat of a greater division than we’ll ever face, insist that we had to respect the principles that make us great, the principles that make us strong, the principles that make us free. And I’ll tell you, we’re going to have to do it again.

Look at what’s happening in the streets of our cities. Look at what’s happening to our families today. Do you think that the decline of marriage and the moral dissolution of the family is a money problem? Or do you think it’s a problem that comes from putting the self first, from deciding that there are no obligations that have to be respected, and at the end of the day freedom is just another kind of empty licentiousness?

We know better, and our Founders knew better, and it’s time that we get back to the truth.

They did not tell us that freedom would be an easy road. They offered us a true vision of the future of America. It was not a vision of licentious freedom and stupid self-indulgence. It was a vision of freedom based upon the fear of God and the respect for law.

And why is it that out of the mouths of all our statesmen we hear all these great emotional words, but they won’t speak the simple truths that our Founders—from Washington through Jefferson, to Lincoln and every President—spoke, until we got to our own cowardly times?

We are not going to remain a free people if we insist on being a corrupt and licentious people.

We are not going to remain a free people if we arrogate to ourselves the right to destroy the rights of others. And that’s exactly what we are doing when we embrace the so-called “pro-choice,” the truly pro-abortion agenda.

My friends, I think it’s empty to praise the courage of the men and women who have died in the service of this country’s freedom and its principles, and yet decide that we shall lack the courage to stand up for those principles, many or few, or even alone if we must. Because that is, in fact, the courage that built America.

This nation was not, as some would have us believe, a dream of material progress and prosperity, and great cities and mountains of money. It was not.

I’m glad that we have achieved that prosperity, even though it came at much expense to some of my forebears. But I’ll tell you something—those who toiled in the depths of slavery, they had an understanding of the real dream of American freedom.

It’s the dream of moral dignity that comes from respecting our true moral capacity.

It’s the dream of self-government that comes from respecting the fact that, in the end, freedom is not just a choice, it is not just an opportunity. It can be a burden and a sacrifice and an obligation. And, above all, it is the obligation to respect the truth of our moral identity.

That moral identity can unite us across every line of race and color and creed, so long as we have the courage to stand for it.

And I think you know by now, looking at the Clinton Administration, that if we as Republicans abandon that line of principle, it will surely be abandoned in America.

But I can also tell you this in warning, that if you abandon that line of principle, there are Americans who will fight—few or many, alone if we must—to make sure that it prevails.

And at every point in our history, when we had the choice between right and wrong, in the end this country chose what was right—and we can be grateful for it. And I think we shall do it again, because we know that the real heroes in America are those who, in their families and in their daily lives, respect the truth that we must meet the obligations and sacrifices of freedom before we claim its privileges and benefits.

And that that means, as well, that come what may, even if it means that we must sacrifice in our personal lives, we have to stand where our Founders stood, on the belief that you cannot have the right to do what is wrong, but that if we build self-government on a true adherence to the principles of justice, then we shall hold up a beacon of right and hope for all of humankind to understand the true destiny of mankind.

Thank you.

http://www.keyesarchives.com/speeches/95_02_19focusfamily.htm


12,551 posted on 04/27/2007 6:53:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<-----------My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: EternalVigilance

Let me clarify. Based on what I know as of today about McCain (a good amount) and Romney (very little), they wouldn’t send me third party. I need to read up more on all the candidates. I’m really curious to see what kind of platform Thompson has. I’m hesitant to jump on that bandwagon without knowing more. I do like Hunter—hope he can raise some money quick!


12,552 posted on 04/27/2007 6:54:02 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim Robinson for president, but I suppose Fred Thompson will do. I suppose I am the LAST Freeper to post on this thread...


12,553 posted on 04/27/2007 6:54:29 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: jedward

FR is incredibly easy to use, which is a real plus for computer illiterate people like me.


12,554 posted on 04/27/2007 6:55:19 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: EternalVigilance

“”It is my proposal that every conservative on FR makes the effort immediately to recruit at least five of their proven conservative friends to come here and join us as we prepare to do battle in 2008.””


As someone that has, as they say, “more time than money” I like that idea a lot.

When I’m not on FR I spend my time at knife and flashlight forums (I told you I’m the only normal one here), there are many solid conservatives among that crowd that I know in a political way and I will direct them to FR with private e-mails.


12,555 posted on 04/27/2007 6:55:23 PM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: calcowgirl

Duncan Hunter is a great American.


12,556 posted on 04/27/2007 6:56:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<-----------My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: Brad's Gramma; All

I agree... BUT, lets be careful that we don’t burn any bridges on this end either.
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Sometimes ya’ hold bridges,,,

Sometimes ya’ take bridges,,,

Sometimes ya’ blow bridges...;0)
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12,557 posted on 04/27/2007 6:57:13 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: gas_dr
I suppose I am the LAST Freeper to post on this thread...

No. I've been waiting for certain FReepers to appear on this thread and they haven't as of yet.

12,558 posted on 04/27/2007 6:57:46 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: ansel12

Excellent!


12,559 posted on 04/27/2007 6:57:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<-----------My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: pax_et_bonum
Giuliani ping.

What do YOU think about Giuliani?

YuGiOh!

12,560 posted on 04/27/2007 6:57:49 PM PDT by humblegunner (?)
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