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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Iwo Jima

LOL!


10,281 posted on 04/25/2007 7:16:57 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Brad's Gramma; jedward
LOLOL....I didn't tell my husband until I waited a few hours & figured it must be OK cause it worked.

But he discovered tonight the keys are sticking...

I never get away with anything!! :^

jedward, I thought of the hairdryer, but was afraid to do it.

10,282 posted on 04/25/2007 7:17:01 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Guenevere

So you’re a wimp too?

I can relate. :)


10,283 posted on 04/25/2007 7:17:37 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Chena

I have a friend who lives in Slana, AK....


10,284 posted on 04/25/2007 7:17:50 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Phatboy

“...despise the left have to pass a litmus test?”

There’s no litmus test, all the owner requests is that you be and act like a conservative in your politics - not to phat a request on a conservative website.

As far as despising the left...Ergg, the zapatistas are supporting the left in Giuliani. His list of leftist positions is so big it gets old repeating them.


10,285 posted on 04/25/2007 7:17:54 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell'm I'm comin - and I'm bringin Hell with me")
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To: airborne
Is that how you pick a President?

If nobody has heard of him, how are they going to vote for him?

10,286 posted on 04/25/2007 7:19:08 PM PDT by humblegunner (?)
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To: beandog

Marking for morning.


10,287 posted on 04/25/2007 7:19:52 PM PDT by beandog (If exercise is so good for you, why does every bone in my body hurt)
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To: Guenevere

I had an apple juice accident about this time last year. Laptop came on, keys were sticky, and about two weeks later, it wouldn’t turn on one day. Turns out the AJ corroded the keyboard. $150 and a new keyboard later I was back in business with nothing lost.

Whew!, but I know longer drink around my computer.


10,288 posted on 04/25/2007 7:20:32 PM PDT by del4hope (If your candidate doesn't respect an unborn life, they don't respect your life either.)
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To: Guenevere

“I thought of the hairdryer, but was afraid to do it.”

You must be brave! You can do it! Or make it worse (lol)


10,289 posted on 04/25/2007 7:20:57 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Guenevere

“I thought of the hairdryer, but was afraid to do it.”

I used to repair computers for a living and some of the keyboards people used to bring me were a stick, yukky mess.

The easiest way I found to clean them was to put them in the sink and house them down and scrub them with a brush and dish soap and then rinse.

Let them sit and drain and then BLOW DRY them before plugging them back in and using them.

Worked like a charm.


10,290 posted on 04/25/2007 7:21:09 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Sun
But did you know that DUNCAN HUNTER has been coming in top three or winning the straw polls?

It's odd the way you capitalize his name.

10,291 posted on 04/25/2007 7:21:14 PM PDT by humblegunner (?)
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To: American Quilter

Thank you very much, American Quilter!!

Woo hoo!!

Just in:

$25 from Colorado
$10 monthly from Maryland
$25 from Texas (in the name of Iwo Jima)
$20 from Florida
$25 from Texas (in the name of Knitting A Conundrum)

Thank you all very much!!


10,292 posted on 04/25/2007 7:21:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: airborne
Hunter said. "I think it's highly irresponsible for the leader of the U.S. Senate to have said that and, just speaking for myself as the ranking Republican on the Armed Services Committee, I think that the leader of the Senate should step down from that position."

That's my man!! This is the attitude and straight talk that we need!

10,293 posted on 04/25/2007 7:21:51 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (DUNCAN HUNTER '08 (I'll add Thompson if he ever decides to enter the race))
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To: DaveLoneRanger
The division in this thread can essentially be boiled down to the differences between conservative views (values) and Republican views (mainly fiscal issues, economics and foreign policy).

I disagree. I am more of a fiscal/economic conservative than a social conservative. When looking closely at Rudy's fiscal record, we find that he left NYC staring at a looming multi-billion dollar deficit and had made no provision to accommodate the fall in the economy that was anticipated by the dot.com bubble. While he reduced a bunch of small taxes, he extended each and every year of his tenure the income tax surhcarge that far exceeded his smaller tax reductions. As to foreign policy, I've been following this campaign closely and have yet to hear him delineate what that policy might be other than vague comments about wanting to win in Iraq (who doesn't?) and that he is the best guy to not only defeat terrorism but to somehow avoid future terrorist attacks--despite his total lack of any experience in this subject.

Further, I don't consider his positions on guns and immigration to be "social" issues. Immigration is the looming economic issue of our time and guns ownership is a fundamental right of the Constitution (nothing "social" about it).

So, to anyone who paints Rudy as only being "socially" liberal, I would suggest that they look closer at the issues and acknowledge that overall, the man is a liberal. The objection to his candidacy is not just abortion, gays, and personal charachter, IMO.

10,294 posted on 04/25/2007 7:22:21 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Jim Robinson
I really and truly do not understand. Do you really think I would go for a gay/abortion/anti-gun liberal activist as the GOP nominee for president without putting up one hell of a fight? How could anyone ever come to that conclusion?

..it is my understanding that Rudy-flavored Kool-Aid has that effect on people...


10,295 posted on 04/25/2007 7:22:53 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: Jim Robinson

>>I really and truly do not understand. Do you really think I would go for a gay/abortion/anti-gun liberal activist as the GOP nominee for president without putting up one hell of a fight? How could anyone ever come to that conclusion? Have you ignored every statement of purpose I’ve ever posted and all of my posts and arguments for conservative values and against liberalism all these years? I’m completely baffled. Shocked actually.<<

I suspect that in part it comes from people unable to separate proper respect and support for a sitting President in war time from the correct and vigerous discussion of who will properly represent conservative values in the next election.

Its two different things but some people don’t see that.


10,296 posted on 04/25/2007 7:23:46 PM PDT by gondramB (God only has ten rules, uncle Hank, and he has a much bigger house.)
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To: humblegunner

Did you hear?

There’s a primary race to run. and it hasn’t even started.

Are you so quick to give up hope to the naysayers, or is it hard work you fear?

Seems to me it’s the job of the electorate to learn about the candidates.

And by golly, you and I know who Hunter is, so that’s a good start!


10,297 posted on 04/25/2007 7:23:49 PM PDT by airborne (Duncan Hunter is the only real choice for honest to goodness conservatives!)
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To: SierraWasp
...argument for the sake of argument gets boring in a hurry!!!

Agreed! And it wastes so much energy that could be better focused elsewhere! :-)

10,298 posted on 04/25/2007 7:24:26 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Brad's Gramma; Chena; RoseRose

Ohhhhh, Annie Oakley Rose!! Now I remember who you’re talking about.


10,299 posted on 04/25/2007 7:24:43 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (DUNCAN HUNTER '08 (I'll add Thompson if he ever decides to enter the race))
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To: Bigh4u2

No. You are kidding. You MUST be kidding...


10,300 posted on 04/25/2007 7:24:57 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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