Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
Well, the NC Freepers have been known to get together; I even had a lot of them here at the house one night! It was a lot of fun.
And I do know good posting when I see it; you cannot fool me!
I think Alan Keyes unnerves this bunch. Must be all that God-talk and stuff.
Bingo!
Who here honestly thinks chipolte peppers taste good?
Why, do you want to be proven a liar once again?
The last time you did that, you got banned; want to try again?
There is a lot of energy surrounding the Rudy campaign and I think people will find out how popular he is in the months ahead and we will get some of the Republicans back in the fold that were driven out along with Indys that we need their support to win.
lol
It's not the God talk.
It's his Money walk.
I talked to you on CP before I got myself banned...LOL
How was it? Don't remember......(something about social security, IIRC) eh?
Memory is a funny thing.......
Care to take a break from the bickering?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1792867/posts
Yeah, sure.
Ms. Intimidation is banning people today? Who knew?
I take umbrage to having my patriotism and my conservatism questioned.
As would any red-blooded American conservative. It has never happened before in my entire life.
You didn't like your patriotism questioned, but apparently it is just dandy if mine is.
Because oh, that's completely different.
I'm not certain Barbara Coe is a Keyes op although she buys her mailing lists from him, I believe. Doesn't matter though, she was there with the mariachi band.
They didn't even rearrange the deck chairs, they kicked them over.
If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.That is simply false. How many DINOs can you name in the U.S. Senate (and you're going to have to prove to me that Webb is one)?
Also, the most recent presidential election proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that you do not have to nominate a moderate or even likeable candidate to be electable. Kerry is an out-of touch Massachusetts rich guy with a crazy foreign wife, an admitted war criminal who actually *ran* on his 4-month military record (that takes nerve), and about as far left as anybody in the Senate, and he STILL almost pulled it off.
I have to believe you have a point. To me the question is never whether the Republican is to the right of Ronald Reagan - that has never happened, and he won easily - the crucial issue is whether the Republican can handle the pressure from "objective" journalism.Dispose, first of all, of the notion that journalism is divided. If anyone claims that journalism is objective, that implies that journalism is unified - in the same way that the New York Yankees and the Boston Red Sox are unified, in that they agree on the umpires and all the other American League business that they get together on. The Yankees and the Red Sox only compete within curcumscribed boundaries. And ABC News only competes with The New York Times or CBS News within specific boundaries.
The claim of objectivity of all journalism implies that the reporter from ABC will not say that the reporter from CBS isn't objective, no matter what. It doesn't matter if CBS promotes obvious crude forgeries, ABC will never compete with CBS on grounds of reliability. It simply isn't done.
And dispose of the claim that journalism is objective or conservative. Journalism features bad news, and that ingrained perspective inherently criticizes the people who are responsible for getting things done. Farmers put alar on apples, oil companies pollute and charge too much, police are brutal and ineffective, soldiers torture prisoners and the DoD is too expensive and not able to suppress all violence in Iraq. Everything that naturally makes a "great story" for journalism also is fodder for anticapitalist, antivalor Democrats.
The challenge faced by a conservative presidential candidate is to represent the people who actually do things - prominently including white men - and defeat the party of criticism and second guessing of the middle class - IOW, the party of journalism. The reason that journalism is left-wing is painfully obvious - leftism is simply whatever plays into the predelictions of journalism the best.
ROFLOL!!! You mean flying first class all the time and not paying some of his campaign staffers?
Is this not your statement?
To: Guenevere
Compromise is the ONLY answer because there are not enough of us to win an election.
Keep saying there are and you'll be in the minority forever.
And where will your principles get you then?
427 posted on 02/28/2007 12:13:33 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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Bookmark. :)
I didn't get banned for lying. I got banned for posting the proof, which contained information you later decided was private. You could always request they restore the posts, if you're so sure others will interpret your anti-freeper comments to be lies by me.
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