Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: Common Tator in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
Sheesh. Give me a break.
LOL!
Yeah, I see that. So spank me already and get it over with.
LOL! If I've made you blush, I know that has to be a first!!! Woo-Hoo!
Prove that only Rudy can competently fight the War on Terror. Opinions don't count. Give us hard evidence. Why, among all the potential candidates, is Rudy the only one who will defend this nation and its people?
The rest of your bunch don't have the courage to make the case. Do you?
LOL, if Hilary changed parties, most of these folks would vote for her.
And neither do we. And we don't see ourselves as 'throwing away' anything but as living to fight another day.
And that difference of opinion, or tactics, if you will, does not a treason make, despite what SOME OTHER members of these discussions have said.
This fact belies the pro-gay...and socially liberal Republican... claims that the ascendancy of the gay movement doesn't affect anyone else's life, that gay people just want to leave everyone alone, and such blather.
The reality is, they want affirmative action for gays, gay teachers in every school, and gay scout masters in every cabin.
The reality is, they are determined to force their immorality upon everyone else in a desperate attempt to drag everyone else down to their level.
Yeah. I can hear it now: "But, she was a Goldwater Girl!"
In any case, my point was that the same polls that show Giuliani with a commanding lead also show that a majority of voters don't know his positions. A Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll from February 13-14 showed that 19% of respondents believed Giuliani was pro-life and 44% did not know his position on abortion. Those 63% may be stupid as you say, but it doesn't change the fact that the poll numbers are skewed by a lack of knowledge of his positions.
And I suspect it will be the honest FReeper that quits in frustration while the dishonest one will celebrate in victory.
No, I didn't take that picture but a shipmate of mine did. Your height wouldn't be too much of an issue...as long as you watch your head and like to sleep curled up into a ball.
For some comical reading:
John Cox: The ONLY conservative in the race
http://www.cox2008.com/cox/
So, you're saying we will die unless Rudy is elected?
Do you really not know how stupid that assertion sounds?
Since it is patently obvious that you don't know, go GOOGLE and learn how it REALLY works and come back here and make your report. I'm sick and tired of correcting all of the error filled posts that are constantly put up here.
Just being honest Jim. One of my most endearing (or alternately maddening) traits, depending on your point of view. Nothing personal.
ROTFL!
OMIGOD; I needed that laugh. I haven't thought about that character in what 30 years!
You're really dating yourself there; and thanks for doing so.
Seriously, they were irked? Why on earth would that bother anyone?
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