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To: Jim Robinson
"I'm shocked that so many people would simply throw it all away. I will continue fighting for our traditional American conservative values regardless. I see absolutely no reason to give up the fight."

And neither do we. And we don't see ourselves as 'throwing away' anything but as living to fight another day.

And that difference of opinion, or tactics, if you will, does not a treason make, despite what SOME OTHER members of these discussions have said.

1,347 posted on 02/28/2007 6:20:44 PM PST by Al Simmons (Why Rudy in 2008? Because National Security should not be left to children.)
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To: Al Simmons
And neither do we. And we don't see ourselves as 'throwing away' anything but as living to fight another day.

So, you're saying we will die unless Rudy is elected?

Do you really not know how stupid that assertion sounds?

1,354 posted on 02/28/2007 6:22:57 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Al Simmons
I don't know why you can't see it, unless you simply refuse to do so. I'll try one more time and then I'm giving up on you as a lost cause.

If we, a conservative party that has been fighting a fight for life and liberty against a socialist enemy that is bound and determined to have things their way, ie, a godless society where abortion and perversion is the way of life and marriage is totally meaningless, the traditional family unit is destroyed, our children (those whom are allowed to live) become wards of the state, we the people no longer enjoy our first amendment rights to dissent, free speech, free religion, not even private property rights, where we no longer have the right to keep and bear arms, where we have no control over our borders or who enters our country, etc, etc, if we drop this fight and elect a president who believes the exact same way our long term enemy does, then we have lost the battle. It is over. Finis. The socialists get their way and this country is on the fast track to hell. That's it in a nutshell, believe it or don't. We will never ever live down electing a social liberal. It's the party putting its stamp of approval on abortion as a constitutional right, gay marriage as a constitutional right, gun control as consistent with the second amendment, ie, the right to keep and bear arms is not an individual right, campaign finance reform is consistent with the 1st amendment, ie, the founders did not really mean "The Congress shall make no law...," the right to private property and due process is meaningless, etc, etc, In other words, our entire constitution is upside down and the people have no rights that can't be taken away and there are no meaningful restrictions on government power. Once you willingly give it up, there will be no way to get it back. The socialists win all.
1,412 posted on 02/28/2007 6:44:27 PM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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