I like Rudy and think he will do well. Based on some of the rabid dislike of Rudy voiced on Free Republic, and the fact that the Left is now also coming out against him...I am reminded by the quotes from Animal House---"They can't treat our pledges like that...only WE can treat our pledges like that!!!
Im pro-choice. Im pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. No, I have not supported that, and I dont see my position on that changing, he responded. Source: CNN.com, Inside Politics Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htmANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)
RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights.KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.
GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.
KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.
JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.
KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.
GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.
Republican Big-Wigs Support Pro-Abortion Event in NY
Pro-abortion Governor George Pataki and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform.
http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp
I'm as strong an opponent of Rudy Giuliani as anyone else, but this moron Alter has less credibility than a bag of rocks.
ALTERed reality alert!
I know people who are and have been very close to Rudy for a long time, he's basically a good guy, there's nothing wrong with him except for the policy positions that we don't agree on.
Oh what a surprise, the Democratic sock puppet Jonathan Alter is already spewing against the GOP frontrunner. What a good little Democratic wind up toy he is. This zombie is more predictable than the sunrise.
Hey Jonathan, did Rudy ever throw a lamp at his spouse or call a campaign worker and "f-ing Jew bastard" like Hillary did? Did he ever say a campaign worker was greedy because he was Jewish? Did he ever terrorize the entire staff at Gracey Mansion? Did he run operations to trash anyone's reputation who accused his spouse of cheating on him and other wrongdoing No? Oh, well then sounds like your piece and its title might be more appropriately applied to Hillary Clinton who did do those things as First Lady of Arkansas AND of the White House?
When I read "Rudys Dark Side" I thought they found more pictures of the former mayor in Drag.
Ooooh that is so very very bad.
I got news for you: it was LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC VOTERS who voted for Rudy in the first place!
Looks like Socialist Borg Central Command needs to send an implant recalibration pulse to its legions, lest idiots like Alter run amok too early in the 2008 campaign.
Nothing personal but it is not the left that is going bash Rudy. It will be the real conservatives that he has to answer to.
I like Rudy personality wise. As for being presidential material, that remains to be seen.
"Temperametnally unsuited?"
How about "morally unsuited?"
Bill Clinton would still not have been a swell guy if he'd been a Pubbie, and Rudy certainly seems cut from the same cloth, libido-wise.
Would he behave any differently in the White House?
Not a chance!
Does anybody really listen to Jonathan Alter?
Rudy has a strong 84% conservative approval rating. (Battle ground poll as of Jan.11, '07)
The rebirth of New York City, the most visible urban achievement in the 20th century is the work of the person now dubbed Americas mayor. For the millions of Americans who live in New York and the millions more who work or whose livelihood has been affected by its revival the contrast between the pre and post Giuliani years could not be more striking.
His defense of Israel and intolerance for Arab and U.N. sponsored anti-Semitism is legendary.
He figuratively walked into the lion's den of a crime ridden, high tax, and decaying city and carried out a conservative agenda of tax cuts, crime reduction and, in the case of the Brooklyn Museum, defense of religion in the public square. On this count Giuliani seems to be the winner in the public character category for his extraordinary vision and leadership.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1780064/posts
Indeed, in one recent poll, majorities of Republicans who were informed of Giulianis views on social issues said that they were either minor issues or no issues at all; only 16% said that they wouldn't vote for him after being informed of these views.
In the online GOP Bloggers poll, Giuliani is consistently one of the few candidates to end up with a net positive acceptability rating. These internet denizens are well-informed, and overwhelmingly self-describe as conservative (78% self-describe as 7 or higher on a 10-scale of conservatism). If these people can support Rudy, anyone can.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/
In fact, an exit poll question from Pew in 2004 revealed that only 3% of voters named abortion as their top voting issue, 2% named religiosity, and 2% named gay marriage.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1780060/posts
Even Reagan couldn't live up to Reagan in today's climate.
He was a great president, but he wasn't perfect.
He was divorced, married a pregnant Nancy, and signed the most liberal abortion legislation at the time when he was Governor of California. As president he gave us two lousy Supreme Court judges, signed amnesty legislation, raised taxes 4 times and after the presidency he actively pushed for federal gun legislation (the Brady Bill).
Rudy also kicked Arafat out of a concert hall. This was back when it wasn't fashionable and Clinton was hosting the terrorist in the White House as his most frequent guest.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19980
Ultra social conservative Pat Robertson thinks Rudy would make a good president.
Asked if Giuliani would be an acceptable 2008 presidential candidate to Christian conservatives, Pat Robertson told ABC's "This Week:" "He did a super job running the city of New York and I think he'd make a good president."
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/5/1/102522.shtml
The SayNoToRudy web site changed their minds about him and now supports him.
http://saynotorudy.org/
Ronald Reagan on compromise:
When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it. "Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything.
I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.'
If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.
~~ Ronald Reagan, in his autobiography, An American Life .
The Hoover Institute, at which Reagan is an Honorary Fellow, thinks Rudy has been good for the GOP.
Working on a book about the Republican Party, last year Hoover fellow Peter Robinson spent some time with Rudolph Giuliani. Although Giuliani is no longer running for the Senate, Robinson argues that Giulianis accomplishments as mayor of New York City set an example for Republican candidates just the same. A portrait of a brilliant politicianand a great public servant.
http://www.hoover.org/publications/digest/3491481.html
At the Reagan Library Gift Shop, all but 3 of the books sold under the "Ronald Reagan Book" section are about Reagan himself or presidential modes of transportation.
Rudy Giuliani's book Leadership is one of those 3 books.
The other 2 are written by Reagan's son and McCaslin.
Rudy's excellent speech at the 2004 GOP Convention:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/mmedia/politics/083004-15v.htm
As George Will said on This Week, His eight years as mayor of New York were the most successful episode of conservative governance in this country in the last 50 years, on welfare and crime particularly." Giuliani, more than any other candidate (Romney comes the closest) has the record of taking on major institutions and reforming them. Think about tourist magnet that is New York now. When Rudy Giuliani took office, 59% of New Yorkers said they would leave the city the next day if they could. Under Rudy Giulianis leadership as Mayor of the nations largest city, murders were cut from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001, while overall crime including rapes, assaults, burglary and auto-thefts fell by an average of 57%. Not only did he fight crime in Gotham like Batman, despite being constantly vilified by the New York Times, he took head on the multiculturalism and victimization perpetuated by Al Sharpton and his cohort of race baiters. He ended New Yorks set-aside program for minority contractors and rejected the idea of lowering standards for minorities. As far as the economy goes, Rudy reduced or eliminated 23 city taxes. He faced a $2.3 billion budget deficit but cut spending instead hiking taxes.
http://www.redstate.com/blogs/dmeaton/2007/feb/04/achieving_socially_conservative_ideals_through_liberal_means_making_the_case_for_rudy
I believe that life is sacred and should not be treated as a commodity. I believe that the institution of marriage needs to be preserved. For now at least, good judges are best way to protect the institution of marriage and move America closer to the day when a debate on the local level can begin again about the value of human life. In order for us to have this debate in state legislatures we must win the next fight over the next Supreme Court vacancy, and if we lose the next presidential election than we will have taken a major step backwards in our quest to replace the current liberal ideology on the highest bench. More than any potential Republican president, Rudy Giuliani will have the easiest time getting strict constructionists confirmed to the Supreme Court and the lower courts.
Think of four scenarios: 1) A Hillary appointment 2) A court battle in which a thinly elected Republican administration that is led by someone who is avidly pro-life faces down a probably Democratic controlled Senate 3) A court battle in which the overwhelmingly elected Republican administration is led by the Bull Moose lover himself, Mr. McCain 4) A court battle in which pro-choice Giuliani, elected and respected by a huge majority of Americans, makes the argument that strict constructionist jurisprudence is needed in the 21st century. He did after all strongly support Justice Roberts, Justice Alito, and he said that he would have made Justice Scalia Chief Justice. As important, Giuliani can actually make a personal case for a specific legal doctrine. The mayor is a former high ranking Justice department attorney who has argued before the Supreme Court.
To reclaim the Senate and Congress, to hold onto the White House, to build a sustainable Republican majority, and to advance conservative principles, we Republicans must unite together and support a candidate who can win the hearts of the vast majority of Americans.
Only when we win hearts can we then win minds.
http://www.redstate.com/blogs/dmeaton/2007/feb/04/achieving_socially_conservative_ideals_through_liberal_means_making_the_case_for_rudy
Among the human characteristics I value most is loyalty. I greatly appreciated the way Rudy Giuliani took to the streets on 9-11 to organize rescue efforts. Still, I can never overlook the betrayal of loyalty he showed his wife and children while having an extramarital affair. Anyone that can be disloyal to his family and his own vows, can be disloyal to an elected office.
THOSE EXPENSIVE CONSULTANTS ARE DOING THEIR WORK RIGHT NOW. Let's see if the succeed... After all we Red Staters(?) are supposed to be stupid remember? :)
... What about a climate where same-sex couples are given the same legal status as married couples, whether the resulting arrangements are candidly called same-sex marriages, or are **semantically** papered-over with terms such as civil unions or domestic partnerships?.
Rudy's a leader, something the left is terrified of. Also, Rudy's tougher and smarter than all the dim candidates put together.
Unfortunately, the inevitable exposure of his cavernous dark side will be proudly and frequently published by his own fans later on to indulge in their fetish and in an attempt to elect Hillary. "Don't ask, don't tell," I say, and spare us the steenky diversion from our real task of drafting Newt.
Jonathan Alter used to write for the Nation, the far-left magazine. Which makes his background perfect for Newsweek.
The MSM is hitting the panic button already. While Hillary is dominating against all the other turds running under the democrat ticket, Rudy is looking like a strong candidate and thus let the bashing and attempts to divide the GOP begin.