Posted on 01/25/2007 10:01:40 AM PST by EveningStar
We hear all sorts of solutions for ending illegal immigration. Build a wall! Beef up border security! Fine employers, and create a massive guest-worker program. Or America could insist on tamper-proof identification cards, or detention, deportation or even amnesty for some illegal aliens -- or all of these measures somehow combined.
But ultimately the solution lies in the hope that a Tijuana might become as prosperous as a San Diego -- now a few miles away but a world apart...
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Well, there's more than one way to skin a cat. In an ideal world, with America proud, strong, and united, we'd simply build a wall and deport all those who came here illegally.
Realistically speaking, that ain't happening.
Pushing to improve Mexico's government can be done on a number of levels. Humanitarian. Pro-democracy. Anti-corruption. For the poor. For the children. You name it. It's hard to smear with charges of racism, xenophobia, or anything else negative.
The individual Mexicans are going to keep coming across, so long as there's incentive for them to do so. What makes an individual decide to leave his home for a foreign land is a factor that can be addressed, even if it's not specifically our problem.
That would make it our solution. Not as gratifiying as a wall, tough laws, and politicians with spine, but a solution nonetheless.
Correct unfortunately W and the federal government have become the problem. And we are in desperate need of a solution or the nation will cease to exist in 10 or 15 years.
Do not forget the drug money, they (Mexican/US ruling class) are getting their share of that too.
The border will never be defended since our masters want to keep the flow of drugs and cheap labor open. They could not care less about the well being of US citizens or society, crime in your neighborhood or mine is fine with them as long as their pockets are filled with cash.
But end this handout nonsense. Now. Not just for illegals, but we need to ween ourselves away from this culture of dependence before it kills us as a Nation. Stop fining corporations who knowingly hire illegals and start tossing managers/CEO's in jail. End the whole "sanctuary city" crud that cities use to sidestep State and Federal law.
It isn't doing any one any favors. Regardless of their country of origin.
Do you really think Mexico will one day become a southern Canada .. prosperous enough for the vast majority of poor people to see no incentive in coming here ?
It will end one of two ways. One, the nation will build an armed wall across the border and carefully monitor who crosses, or it will open up the floodgates and do away with national identity & national sovereignty.
I'd be cool with that. There is some doubt that their current crop of politicians would be honest enough to apply our laws to their Citizens, but it couldn't be any worse than it is now can it?
I'd offer the same proposition to Canada. Puerto Rico has already been petitioning for entry. I say we grant it to them.
You're absolutely correct. Having been amongst that crowd (as a visitor only) I can say they are cold blooded and indifferent to anything-anyone except for what that person can bring to them.
Fer instance look at the Enron case. Those crooks weren't rejected at their country clubs - Heck in Texas it don't matter "how ya got it, just so ya gots plenty" (with apologies to Miss Barnett)
Within 50 years, the governments in Mexico City and Ottawa will be figureheads with no more power than Prince Charles. The North American Union is what the powerbrokers are betting on, in the long run, not America.
The North American Union won't do us any more good than the European Union did for them. Except, as you noted, in the halls of power. I'm not so certain as you that such a thing will come to pass though.
I am no Mexican lawyer, so take the following like a tequila, with some salt. It seems to me that Mexico's basic problem might be one of constitutional structure, with a basic set-up that is not committed to private property, individual rights, and fundamental capitalism.
Basically, like many another Latin American country, the principles of socialism are enshrined without the primary financial and legal infrastructure in place to support them.
In other words, we can pour money in for specific projects, put there is nowhere to actually put in massive foreign aid where it can do some work. The capacity to absorb wealth, and actually use it to create more wealth simply isn't there for some psycho-legal-historical reason beyond my pay-grade.
Example: The EU poured billions annually into Ireland, Portugal, and Greece for years. Ireland did the best with it, because they had a structure, derived, one would suppose, from the British system, by which Ireland was managed for some 700 years. Portugal did OK, not great. And Greece also ran. I.E. They seem to have wound up with less benefit from the massive investment than others.
No, I think that's the best option, and what we should be pushing for.
What I think is more likely is that the ruling class (pardon the anachronistic and somewhat inaccurate expression) of America would prefer to let both sides collapse, in order to gain economic dominance over the entire continent. A side effect of globalization will be that economics emerges as the new militarism. The race is on to see who can control the biggest slice of economic influence.
In that regard, they feel it may be necessary to break a few eggs to make the omlette.
What does that have to do with anything? The reasoning behind those decisions isn't about what's good for us, it's about what's good for them.
Certainly, we as individuals would all be better off under a Constitutional framework. That would require individuals ready to vote or fight in sufficent numbers to keep said framework. Those certainly don't exist in Mexico, and they're gradually disappearing from the U.S. and Canada as well.
This is the future of our nation. The politicians on both sides of the isle don't give a dang about the 'honest, law abiding' American citizens, otherwise the politicians would stop the illegal alien invasion of our nation. I'll say it one more time, "Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated or killed American citizens". Those are the choices. Sounds just like islam, though none dare call it such.
We ain't dead yet. Don't give up the fight before we get started.
From a previous poster..
How do you out vote a populace movement whose heros are Fidel, Che, Simon, and Hugo instead of George Washington?
Which party needs a permanent poverty class to stay in power by providing 'circus and bread'?
The average law abiding American citizen is allowed to do nothing. Should the average law abiding American citizen attempt to do something, jail awaits him or her, the politicians will make certain of it. (ie..Border Patrol Agents)
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