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Rabbi claims Holocaust dead ‘deserved it’
Sunday Times ^ | 12/17/06 | Maurice Chittenden

Posted on 12/18/2006 6:21:45 PM PST by TFFKAMM

A BRITISH rabbi who angered fellow Jews by speaking at a “Holocaust denial” conference in Iran now says millions did die in gas chambers but may have deserved it.

Ahron Cohen, an Orthodox Jew from Greater Manchester and a leading member of the anti-Zionist Neturei Karta movement, sparked new controversy on his return from Tehran by suggesting that God would have saved the victims of the Nazis if they had deserved to live.

Cohen, whose house in Salford was pelted with 1,000 eggs last year because of his extremist views, told The Sunday Times: “There is no question that there was a Holocaust and gas chambers. There are too many eyewitnesses.

“However, our approach is that when one suffers, the one who perpetrates the suffering is obviously guilty but he will never succeed if the victim did not deserve it in one way or another.

“We have to look within to improve and try to better ourselves and remove those characteristics or actions that may have been the cause of the success of the Holocaust.”

Cohen’s trip to Tehran — along with four American rabbis from the same sect — was paid for by the Iranian foreign ministry, which organised the conference entitled The Holocaust: A Global Vision. They were warmly greeted by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, and had two meetings with him.

Cohen ended his speech to the conference with a prayer “that the underlying cause of strife and bloodshed in the Middle East, namely the state known as Israel, be totally and peacefully dissolved”.

The rabbi claimed “learned gentlemen from both sides of the fence” were at the latest conference. They included David Duke, former “imperial wizard” of the Ku Klux Klan.

Cohen said on his return: “President Ahmadinejad is not a man of war. He is a man of peace. I have received criticism for meeting him and attending the conference, but Jewish people are adopting an attitude of criticism from an emotional point of view, not a logical or sensible one.

“We know there was a Holocaust. We lived through it. I had relatives who died in it . . . But in no way must the Holocaust be used to further the aims of the Zionist concept.”

Rabbi Yehuda Brodie, registrar of the Jewish Ecclesiastical Court for Greater Manchester, said: “Rabbi Cohen has for a long time been ostracised by the vast majority of Jews for associating with and thus giving support and legitimacy to the enemies of Israel and the Jewish nation.

“He represents an insignificant minority. His involvement is a stab in the heart of the Jewish community and of all decent law-abiding people.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; holocaust; iran; israel; jews; judaism; moonbat; netureikarta; selfhatingjew; traitorjew
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1 posted on 12/18/2006 6:21:47 PM PST by TFFKAMM
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This is one sick "rabbi."


2 posted on 12/18/2006 6:23:43 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I hope nobody "offends" me today.)
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To: TFFKAMM

Unbelievable that anyone with a brain can believe that tripe!


3 posted on 12/18/2006 6:23:48 PM PST by derllak
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idiot rabbi


4 posted on 12/18/2006 6:24:15 PM PST by Biscuit85 (I hate CNN!)
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What a "maroon"!


5 posted on 12/18/2006 6:24:32 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

More likely, a fake one. A large number that took over the assests of the victims took over the identities too.


6 posted on 12/18/2006 6:25:03 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: TFFKAMM
God would have saved the victims of the Nazis if they had deserved to live

It's God's fault, that's a new one.

He took Hitler, too, so I guess it all works out.

7 posted on 12/18/2006 6:25:54 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: TFFKAMM

Ahron Cohen must not have read the book of Job.

Why innocent people suffer is a long-standing theological question in virtually every faith, including Judaism. I didn't see where Judaism had answered this issue by saying that everyone who suffers deserves it.

I certainly don't know what 12 million (7 million Jews plus gypsies, homosexuals, etc) all did to deserve the horrors of Nazi extinction, er, concentration camps. Whatever it was, whooo boy, it must've be a lot more evil that what Hitler did (who was allowed to commit suicide). /sarcasm



8 posted on 12/18/2006 6:25:57 PM PST by TWohlford
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Cohen, whose house in Salford was pelted with 1,000 eggs last year because of his extremist views

Surely there must be someplace to donate for more eggs.
9 posted on 12/18/2006 6:26:54 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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“However, our approach is that when one suffers, the one who perpetrates the suffering is obviously guilty but he will never succeed if the victim did not deserve it in one way or another."

So, Rabbi, you deserved it when your house got egged? I personally agree with that but is it how you see it Rabbi?

Rabbi?

10 posted on 12/18/2006 6:28:21 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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File photo of Rabbi Ahron Cohen:


11 posted on 12/18/2006 6:29:50 PM PST by TitansAFC (Pacifism is not peace; pacifists are not peacemakers.)
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"Rabbi claims Holocaust dead ‘deserved it’ "



Yeah.... Hilter was obviously a good guy.


12 posted on 12/18/2006 6:30:22 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: TFFKAMM; Salem; SJackson; Alouette; ExTexasRedhead; NYer; wagglebee

Can Rabbis be defrocked?


13 posted on 12/18/2006 6:33:43 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Corporatism is not conservatism)
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He must really hate himself (and with good reason).


14 posted on 12/18/2006 6:34:49 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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OMGoodness, that picture Alouette posts is exactly right


15 posted on 12/18/2006 6:37:50 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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I think it was Jabotinsky who said something to the
effect of, just like any other nation, we Jews have
a right to have scumbags of our own :) Case in point...


16 posted on 12/18/2006 6:38:16 PM PST by WingBolt
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One thing's for sure - - this insane rabbi fit right in with the rest of that crowd.


17 posted on 12/18/2006 6:39:27 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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Wow.


18 posted on 12/18/2006 6:39:32 PM PST by Radix (Tag Line under construction.........)
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It appears likely that this particular "Rabbi Cohen" got his theological credentials the same way "Pastor Fred Philps" got his...

MSM universally ratified, but unsourced by any other "controlling religious authority".
19 posted on 12/18/2006 6:39:44 PM PST by sarasmom (Enough!)
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bbi. Awwwwwwwwwwww. Rabbi. I got a treat for you.
An open invitation to visit me anytime for an example of a true miracle.
I have this faith inspired trick that I do, wherein I can condense time; make it seem like an eternity if you spend three minutes with me. Guaranteed.
Schmuck! You would pray to have me replaced with Jack Bauer.
20 posted on 12/18/2006 6:42:05 PM PST by Gideon Reader (" All of us know who the enemy is, and where the threat comes from, except for the politicians.")
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