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College removes cross – from chapel!
WorldNetDaily ^ | October 27, 2006

Posted on 10/27/2006 4:28:05 AM PDT by Man50D

The cross from the altar area of the chapel at the College of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Va., has been removed to ensure the space is seen as a nondenominational area, explains Melissa Engimann, assistant director for Historic Campus.

"In order to make the Wren Chapel less of a faith-specific space, and to make it more welcoming to students, faculty, staff and visitors of all faiths, the cross has been removed from the altar area," Engimann announced in an e-mail to staff.

The cross will be returned to the altar for those who wish to use it for events, services or private prayer.

The cross was in place because of the college's former association with the Anglican Church. Though the college is now nondenominational and became publicly supported in 1906, the room will still be considered a chapel, college officials said.


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It wouldn't suprise me if the chapel eventually will be converted into a mosque.
1 posted on 10/27/2006 4:28:06 AM PDT by Man50D
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The cross will be returned to the altar for those who wish to use it for events, services or private prayer

Hey you guys in charge of that brilliant decision: - You had better remove that altar, as well.

2 posted on 10/27/2006 4:32:00 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Man50D

They going to replace it with a picture of an aborted baby??

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


3 posted on 10/27/2006 4:34:35 AM PDT by bray (Voting for the Rats is a Death Wish)
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To: bill1952

Satan is cackling with glee. I wonder at what RPM the Founding Fathers are spinning in their graves....


4 posted on 10/27/2006 4:36:38 AM PDT by Right Angler
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To: Man50D

Madness.

Absolutely absurd.

Disgusting.

And a whole lot of cuss words I can't use because we are talking about a cross and a chapel.


5 posted on 10/27/2006 4:49:07 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: bill1952

No: They will need to altar for the Pagan blood letting rites.


6 posted on 10/27/2006 4:51:24 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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From the publicly accessible site;

Louise Lambert Kale, Executive Director, the Historic Campus

The College of William & Mary
P.O. Box 8795
Williamsburg, Virginia 23187-8795
Tele: +1 (757) 221-1540
Fax: +1 (757) 221-1541

Email: llkale@wm.edu


7 posted on 10/27/2006 5:36:36 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: Man50D

Pretty good thread already running on the topic. Yours is a WND daily source, so it's not a dupe.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1726663/posts


8 posted on 10/27/2006 5:43:24 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Man50D

Make sure you wear your burqa before entering.


9 posted on 10/27/2006 5:43:25 AM PDT by Salvey (ancest)
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To: dhuffman@awod.com

I sent an email yesterday to the College as an alum. Expressed my dismay and disgut, politely, and directed them to never contact me again for fund-raising, homecoming, etc.

I had hoped that when the prior entirely PC Dr. Sullivan stepped down that the College would act better. Nope.


10 posted on 10/27/2006 5:45:28 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Man50D

It's all about funding.


11 posted on 10/27/2006 5:45:47 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Blueflag

As I protest to posters on the various Second Amendment fora (forums) where I write, preaching here is merely to the choir (well, 'cept for the DUmmie trolls) and A-men from the murmuring congregation. Preach directly to the sinner, the wonder of the interconnected networks.


12 posted on 10/27/2006 5:57:47 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: Man50D

I dont' see why a nondenominational chaple should have a cross. It if was a mulit-denominational chaple for use by Christians, sure, but a nondenominational chaple shouldn't have decor specific to one set of faith.


13 posted on 10/27/2006 6:01:21 AM PDT by Grig
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"It wouldn't suprise me if the chapel eventually will be converted into a mosque."

Or a synagogue, perhaps. Last I heard, the Jews don't believe in the symbol of the cross, either.


14 posted on 10/27/2006 6:26:34 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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Or a synagogue, perhaps. Last I heard, the Jews don't believe in the symbol of the cross, either.

MM, that's not the issue—and you know it. This is about the College trying to remove a Christian symbol from a room that has been a Christian chapel for almost 300 years! (2032 isn't that long away...) Can't the school provide some other space for its non-Christian students, whether Jewish, Hebrew, or Muslim, that would not interfere with the accurate portrayal of the College's Christian heritage and history? (The Wren Chapel is a part of Colonial Williamsburg, which is a "living museum" of the Commonwealth's second capital, and as such, should be expected to realistically depict life in the 18th century!)

Or is nothing Christian allowed to be sacred any more?

Most Respecfully,
~dt~

15 posted on 10/27/2006 10:16:47 AM PDT by detsaoT (Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
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Apparently the college decided otherwise. If it is THE chapel for that college, then the decision makes sense to me.

The military does the same thing on small bases. If there is just one chapel, no symbols of a particular religion are in the chapel, except when there is a religious function in the chapel. If the Protestants are there, a plain cross is on the wall. If the Catholics are there, a crucifix is on the wall. If a Jewish service is being held, appropriate symbols for that service are brought out. And so on. It is how a single building can be a chapel for all persons on the base.

Looks to me like a similar thing is going here.


16 posted on 10/27/2006 10:25:32 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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But is that appropriate in an almost-300-year-old HISTORIC property? Do you think the College would even begin thinking about doing this if this were a historic Synagogue? It is a historic Chapel.

This kind of policy reeks of revisionism to me. I wouldn't have complained a whit if the College opened a new multi-faith chapel, but to try to remove Christian symbols from a historically-Christian room is disturbing.

Again, respectfully,
~dt~

17 posted on 10/27/2006 10:32:09 AM PDT by detsaoT (Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
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It wouldn't suprise me if the chapel eventually will be converted into a mosque.

...in the name of "tolerance".

18 posted on 10/27/2006 10:33:12 AM PDT by TChris (The United Nations is suffering from delusions of relevance.)
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"But is that appropriate in an almost-300-year-old HISTORIC property?"




I'm afraid I can't answer that question. The decision was not mine. The thing is that the cross will be brought in when Christian services are held. At other times it will not. That was the decision. It was not my decision. I'm merely trying to explain why it might have been made.

I guess asking the person who made it would get a clearer answer.


19 posted on 10/27/2006 10:37:13 AM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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Already trying to get an answer. I can't imagine that the Colonial Williamsburg Foundation would allow this to happen, but who's to say. Historians are far too disgustingly PC these days—it's any wonder we know anything about our history at all...

Regards,
~dt~

20 posted on 10/27/2006 10:38:50 AM PDT by detsaoT (Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
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