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Do anti-gun legislators deserve support simply because they're Republican?
Buckeye Firearms Association ^ | 10/16/06 | Ken Hanson & Chad Baus

Posted on 10/16/2006 11:43:15 AM PDT by OH2Am

Buckeye Firearms Association has always described itself as a non-partisan political action committee. Yet in recent days, PAC Chairman Jim Irvine has been in conversation with a reader who takes exception to the endorsement of Democrats. (For an excellent article on the NRA's endorsement of Democrats in national races, click here)

In a bit of ironic timing, as this conversation was going on, another Buckeye Firearms Association volunteer was having her own conversation with just the type of Republican this PAC could never endorse...

(Excerpt) Read more at buckeyefirearms.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: antigun; banglist; democrat; democrats; progun; republican
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1 posted on 10/16/2006 11:43:16 AM PDT by OH2Am
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To: OH2Am
NO
2 posted on 10/16/2006 11:45:04 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: OH2Am

ONLY if it keeps a liberal democrat out office


3 posted on 10/16/2006 11:45:54 AM PDT by clamper1797 (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win)
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To: clamper1797

B I N G O ! ! !

LLS


4 posted on 10/16/2006 11:46:59 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: OH2Am
Yes, always support a Republican over a democrat. However if you like weakened national defense, higher taxes, more of your hard earned money given away to people who don't work, etc.........vote for the dims.

BTW, a belated welcome to FR, I see you just joined us this month.

5 posted on 10/16/2006 11:49:01 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: OH2Am
How do you know a Democrat Politician is lying? Their lips are moving.

Funny thing about Democrats, they tell the usual suspects what they want to hear on any single hot button issue and then go to DC and do exactly the opposed.

But this is usual for the Always Angry, unless they get throughly politically reamed by a Democrat every 4 to 6 years, they forget way it is utter idiocy to trust a Democrat on anything. Then there is the other little matter the Always Angry ignore. You are not just electing this or that Democrat, you are putting in charge of the Congress or the Legislature ALL the Democrats. THIS one Dim may be ok, but what about the ones who will chair the committees and head up the offices if this one gets elected?

6 posted on 10/16/2006 11:49:04 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (EeevilCon, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Gun Owning Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
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To: Puppage
Better to support a Anti-Gun Republican if it means it keeps the PRO-Gun Rights Republican Party In Power. After All If you don't vote for the Anti-Gun Republican you could wind up with a Anti-Gun Congress and a Anti-Gun Democrat as your Rep/Senator.
7 posted on 10/16/2006 11:50:36 AM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: OH2Am
If you're a single issue voter, then vote your conscience, or stay home.

If you stay home, though, just remember to shut your yap until the next election, because you have no right to complain.

8 posted on 10/16/2006 11:53:20 AM PDT by Terabitten (Deus Vult!)
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To: OH2Am
If you're a single issue voter, then vote your conscience, or stay home.

If you stay home, though, just remember to shut your yap until the next election, because you have no right to complain.

9 posted on 10/16/2006 11:55:45 AM PDT by Terabitten (Deus Vult!)
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To: OH2Am

NO


10 posted on 10/16/2006 11:56:27 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: OH2Am

Never happen where I vote but if it means having to vote for, or give the election to, a Democrat of any stripe, sorry. Although gun freedoms are very important to me, there are just too many other issues to consider than any single one.


11 posted on 10/16/2006 11:57:15 AM PDT by Muleteam1
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To: OH2Am
The time to get rid of these RINOS are during the primaries
not just before the election.
12 posted on 10/16/2006 11:59:57 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: OH2Am
"Do anti-x legislators deserve support just because they're Republican?"

No, but it's not that simple.

You need to vote to maximize the chances of what you want, and to minimize the chances of what you don't.

In most cases (not all), electing the Republican will optimize your outcomes.

Counter examples: Chaffee (R-RI). He's an enemy. When he loses, we should celebrate.

Sometimes a lunchbucket Democrat would be better than a country-club RINO.

But in general, a party-supported candidate who is safely tucked within the GOP House or Senate caucus will do less harm than a communist running on the RAT line.

Your problem with gun laws (and I agree they are both useless and anti-Constitutional, a rare twofer) is not the existence of RINOs but the fact that not enough of our fellow citizens agree with you.

Work on that.

13 posted on 10/16/2006 12:12:50 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Some moron brought a cougar to a party, and it went berserk.)
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To: OH2Am

Support in terms of endorsements from gun rights orgs should be given on the basis of the gun issue alone, regardless of party.


14 posted on 10/16/2006 12:15:18 PM PDT by technochick99 ( Firearm of choice: Sig Sauer....)
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To: OH2Am

No.


15 posted on 10/16/2006 12:22:10 PM PDT by Red6 (Weird thoughts -)
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To: clamper1797

> ONLY if it keeps a liberal democrat out office

You've got it right. It bears repeating.


16 posted on 10/16/2006 12:23:27 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

"The time to get rid of these RINOS are during the primaries
not just before the election."

BINGO!!! Get rid of him/her in the primary, but if he/she is on the ballot in the General Election, you gotta go with the lesser of two evils, no matter how distastfull it might be. I will never vote for a Democrat. Gun rights are very important to me, but I can't use that issue as the absolute determining factor for my vote. I have to look at the big picture. A RINO can for the most part be controlled by the majority.


17 posted on 10/16/2006 12:25:18 PM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: jim_trent

BTW any non vote or third party vote is a vote for the dark side. There is WAY to much at stake right now for anyone to stay home to "teach the RINOs a lesson". Just think ... speaker Pelosi ... if you have ANY thoughts of not voting or voting for a third party this election.


18 posted on 10/16/2006 12:30:10 PM PDT by clamper1797 (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win)
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To: Joe Brower; Mr. Mojo; DaveLoneRanger; Travis McGee

ping


19 posted on 10/16/2006 12:31:32 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: clamper1797

Here is from my "profile" here:

When voting, I look at the two people most likely to win. I will take a conservative over a “moderate Republican” if I can get it. I will accept a “moderate Republican” over a RINO if I have to. I will live with a RINO over a Demoncrat if I must. I will not vote for a Demoncrat under any circumstances. Neither will I a vote for a conservative (regardless of the label he wears) if it means that a Demoncrat is sure to win (for example, in a 3-way race). If a conservative is only pulling 5%, 10% or 15% of the votes, all he is is a spoiler, not a serious candidate.


20 posted on 10/16/2006 12:40:08 PM PDT by jim_trent
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