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August 21/22 WMD Terror Predictions [Live Doomsday Thread]
08/21/06 | Illuminator

Posted on 08/21/2006 1:06:06 AM PDT by illuminator413

Here are my predictions for August 22 (actually August 21).

I’ve analyzed over 10,000 articles and a list of books since 9/11. Here is my analysis, listed as predictions, as of 1 AM PT 8/21. I don’t reference all my sources in the interest of space.

1. Terrorists will probably attack Israel with WMD on 8/21 or 8/22. Most likely time is on 8/21 between 9 AM and 2 PM US Pacific Time. This time corresponds to the Islamic religious holiday of the night of Rajab 27, which begins at sunset local time (ie around 9 AM PT US). The terrorists/Iran would want the Muslim world to be awake to witness the news, so I would guess around 11 AM US PT is the highest risk (ie 9 PM local time—around 90 mins after sunset).

2. I believe Jerusalem will be attacked with a nuclear bomb. See WSJ, “August 22”, etc. This night is important for all Muslims, Shi’ite and Sunni, for somewhat different reasons. The attack may come from short-range missiles fired in a flurry (hard to defend against) from Syria, Iran, Lebanon, or sea, etc., or from a ground-based/pre-positioned terrorist.

3. Terrorists may strike major US cities near-simultaneously with Israel. Or they may wait for a pretext, see more below.

4. Iran has nuclear weapons and is prepared to use them to attempt to bring about the destruction of US and Israel and reemergence of the 12th imam. See Countdown to Crisis by Timmerman and also Countdown to Terror by Congressman Curt Weldon, etc.

5. Other sources that indicate Iran probably previously acquired working nukes (before 9/11) are reportedly Jane’s Defence, and “Resolution Passed by the JINSA Board of Directors” 20 June 2002 citing Russia officials.

6. Al Qaeda has weaponized anthrax (see Suskind, One Percent Doctrine, etc.), and possibly nuclear weapons.

7. Iran and Al Qaeda are secretly cooperating. Iran was involved in 9/11. See Wall Street Journal “Behind the 9/11 Report” as well as the two books (Timmerman/Weldon) referenced above. The Bush Admin has known much of this info but is keeping quiet about it since the threat is so sensitive. It is difficult to make a public case for war.

8. Iran has previously tried to bait the US and Israel into attacking Iran so that Iran has a pretext to attack with WMD.

9. Israel and the US will attack Iran after Israel is hit/nuked. Iran plans to play innocent but will use the counter-attack on Iran as their pretext. They will play to the world that the attack on Israel was just an American/Jewish conspiracy. See Debka “August 22” article.

10. Iran/Hezbollah and/or Al Qaeda have WMD prepositioned in the US, or plan to quickly position them. The London terrorist plot for August 16 may have been a planned distraction to allow final positioning for the bigger attack.

11. Al Qaeda/Iran’s coming big attack is not too far from the so-called “hoax” that previously appeared in the Asia Times about multiple US cities being nuked, then attacked with biological weapons. They will truly attempt to ruin America. This may have been a legitimate warning, per jihadi practice, from a true high-level member of Al Qaeda. This attack scenario meshes with the facts and Al Qaeda statements since 9/11.

12. Cities most at risk are 1-New York, 2-Washington, 3-Los Angeles. Other cities with higher risk are unclear but probably include the big ones and/or with large Jewish populations: Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, Miami, Houston, San Francisco, etc.

13. Russia and China consider the US a rival and to some extent their enemy. Thus they don’t mind helping Iran or watching Iran and the US destroy each other (just as Kissinger said ‘it’s a pity they can’t both lose’ about the Iran-Iraq War).

14. Hopefully Russia or China won’t attempt to strike at a partially destroyed US.

15. North Korea, Iran, Syria, and Venezuela will stick together. Other Muslim countries will be torn and pulled towards the anti-US side. A world war against Muslim (extremists) is likely.

16. Ahmadinejad, and the clerics in Iran, are similar to Hitler in preparing to wipe out Jews, and are as dangerous if not more so.

17. A large part of the US public and media are in denial about the threat of WMD. They “can’t handle the truth”, and are too cynical with government (one in three believe 9/11 was US sponsored).

I hope I’m wrong – and if not, I hope our administration has a good plan.

Good luck, and may God protect all the innocent people at risk from this wicked fascist threat.

- Illuminator


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To: illuminator413

Not to forget September 8, 2006 [18 days left]! Imam Mahdi's birthday! Maybe Iran wants total nuclear world war for September 8, so the Mahdi arrives on his birthday! Iran nukes Israel today [or tomorrow night], and so it starts. On 8 September, when the world is in total chaos, the Mahdi arrives [Ahmadinejad thinks, perhaps].


41 posted on 08/21/2006 3:48:10 AM PDT by DXwertos
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To: DXwertos

Hey, September 8 is MY birthday! Maybe I'm the mahdi, cleverly disguised as a midwestern housewife! Yeah...that's the ticket. Everyone follow ME!


42 posted on 08/21/2006 3:51:28 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: DXwertos; illuminator413; oldglory; MinuteGal; mcmuffin; JulieRNR21; gonzo; sheikdetailfeather

"Not to forget September 8, 2006 [18 days left]! Imam Mahdi's birthday! Maybe Iran wants total nuclear world war for September 8, so the Mahdi arrives on his birthday! Iran nukes Israel today [or tomorrow night], and so it starts. On 8 September, when the world is in total chaos, the Mahdi arrives [Ahmadinejad thinks, perhaps]." ~ DXwertos

Another voice to add to the mix:

Terror Threat for 8/22: Back to the Future
By Micah D. Halpern August 16, 2006
http://web.israelinsider.com/views/9193.htm

Islamic terrorists perpetrate evil acts to achieve a better future for themselves and their coreligionists. Islamic terrorists perpetrate evil acts to remind themselves and their coreligionists of ancient glories or religious events. For Islamic terrorists, today is the conduit to remember yesterday and plan for tomorrow.

For Islamic terrorists it really is "back to the future."

Almost every act of terror carried out today by Islamic radicals, whether al Qaeda or Iranian-bred, is a variation on an earlier terror theme and is done to recall a previous memory or historical event. Little to almost nothing is original from planning stages to final stages, from making threats to carrying them out.

Look at the latest and what would certainly have been the greatest act of terror in our time. The planned attempt to hijack and blow up ten airliners originating in London and flying to destinations in the United States as they crossed the Atlantic is mind-blowing. The use of liquid explosives carried onto the plane in Gatorade sports bottles is evil genius. But none of it is original. The plans come directly out of the al Qaeda training manual, the CD set that al Qaeda uses to plan and execute attacks.

Al Qaeda took a tried and tested plan, tweaked it and put it into action a second time. In the 1990's al Qaeda had a plan to hijack twelve trans-Pacific airliners and blow them up using liquid explosives carried onto the planes in contact lens solution bottles. Details of the plan emerged and became public during the trial of Ramzi Yousef, one of the terrorists dispatched on this suicide mission by Khaled Sheik Mohamed. Then it was twelve, now it was ten. Then it was trans-Pacific, now it was trans-Atlantic. Then it was lens solution, now it is Gatorade. The variances are slight, the similarities are glaring.

Al Qaeda chose an explosive already proven successful, refined it, and planned to send it on board. This wasn't the first attempted use of peroxide based explosives. The explosives used in the London tube bombings, the bombings now known simply as 7-7, were very, very similar to the explosives intended for use now.

But the real significance of the London terror plot was the timing.

This attack was scheduled to fall into the divide between 7-7 and 9-11. Recognizing and accepting that fact is essential. Failure to appreciate the intrinsic significance al Qaeda attached to the date of this attack is a failure to understand al Qaeda.

In the world of radical Islam past events add weight to any contemporary attack. Attacks are programmed to resonate with history and reverberate with meaning beyond the present. Attacks are a tool used to remind the collective Muslim community to recall an historical episode.

In the course of the crisis now going on between Hezbollah and Israel, there were many Israeli air strikes over towns, villages and communities. Of the many destroyed communities, Hezbollah chose to exaggerate the death and destruction in Qana over the destruction in any other community. Why Qana? Because Qana has recent historical significance and Hezbollah seized the opportunity to use Qana as an emotional trigger.

Any mention of the name Qana recalls the time in 1996 when Israel hit Qana after Hezbollah launched rockets from a position next to a United Nations encampment. It was ten years ago and the Moslem and Arab world still vividly remembers the Israeli action that killed over 100 people.

In a move that few Westerners understand the president of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, shouted that August 22 will be the date when all will know. When all will know what? Ahmadinejad was not talking to us, he was talking to his Moslem brothers, recalling recalling the midnight ride of the prophet Mohamed who traveled on his winged stead to Heaven and the Furthest Mosque, implicitly understood to be Jerusalem.

In Arabic this story is called the Miraj. In Islamic history the Miraj takes place on the 27 of the month of Rajab. This year, that date corresponds to the 22nd of August. Ahmadinejad is invoking eschatology, the end of days and the time of "the great light in the sky" as Muslims call it. Ahmadinejad is informing the Muslim world that, this year also, an event of significance will happen on that date. Ahmadinejad proclaims that the event will change their destiny.

We shall see.

Views expressed by the author do not necessarily reflect those of israelinsider.


43 posted on 08/21/2006 3:54:51 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ( Ignorance is correctable with education, but stupid is forever.)
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To: Miss Marple

Get back in your well and try to behave....LOLLLL


44 posted on 08/21/2006 4:14:36 AM PDT by Pine Mtn. Maverick
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To: Pine Mtn. Maverick

Make that pig dung...........


45 posted on 08/21/2006 4:35:47 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: demlosers
....and an attack that leaves the red-states intact.

Sorry, I just can't get too worked up about a possible attack if the God-loving and God-fearing rednecks of the country are left with their guns, dogs and ammo-making abilitiies.

In full disclosure, I should say that my husband has been making ammo all weekend, with his dog at his side.

46 posted on 08/21/2006 4:42:26 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: wildcatf4f3

Sweet :):):)


47 posted on 08/21/2006 4:45:54 AM PDT by Cate
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To: kingu
Only problem is that the US will never use nukes unless attacked with WMD. And even then, probably not. The current politics are such that they have been effectively taken from the TOB. Even if we had a clear warning of an impending attack, we would wait.
48 posted on 08/21/2006 4:49:46 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Matchett-PI

bttt


49 posted on 08/21/2006 4:52:16 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: redgolum

"Only problem is that the US will never use nukes unless attacked with WMD. And even then, probably not. The current politics are such that they have been effectively taken from the TOB. Even if we had a clear warning of an impending attack, we would wait." ~ redgolum

I wouldn't be too sure about that.

Comment # 14 in the item below: "..The message that we are in a cultural war for our very existence simply hasn't hit many people yet. It will take far more damage than high gas prices. We have, for the most part, become soft as a people. We are so vastly wealthy and content, many people are not willing to concern themselves over this situation. At least not until the threat is knocking on their doors. I pray it doesn't come to that, but the lessons of history imply otherwise."

But I agree with what Ralph Peters says (in the item below): "Bit by bit, the Western mood is turning from disbelief regarding the "terrorist threat" to hard-knuckled realism about extremist Islam. 9/11 taught the terrorists little of use and many wrong lessons. It may be hard for some of us to discern what's really happening, but the Islamists are resurrecting a militant, ruthless West." bttt

MOMENT OF TRUTH
NEW YORK POST ^ | August 20, 2006 | RALPH PETERS
Posted on 08/20/2006 8:54:54 AM EDT by kellynla
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1686837/posts

IN the wake of Israel's strategic setback in Lebanon, where's the Middle East headed? (Hint: The road sign doesn't read "Age of Aquarius").

Powerful emotions intoxicate all sides. In the Middle East, only the Israelis have intellectual and moral integrity. Arabs and Persians rely on a culture of blame. The media obscure as much as they illumine.

So what should truly concern us? Bad news first.

Within the forces of terror, the balance of power has shifted. Sunni fanatics, such as al Qaeda's supporters, have suffered severe losses in Afghanistan, Iraq and around the world. Still capable of doing serious damage, they're nonetheless being eclipsed in importance by state-backed Shia terrorists, with Hezbollah in the lead and Iran providing arms, money, training and strategic depth.

* A postmodern terrorist army - Hezbollah's - just achieved the first terrorist defeat of a powerful state on a conventional battlefield. The strategic echoes will embolden extremists throughout the Middle East and beyond.

* Iran, a state that openly sponsors terrorism, is well on the way to possessing nuclear weapons. And the world community pretends it doesn't really matter. Worse, military action to destroy Tehran's dispersed and bunkered nuclear program would require a massive, sustained effort - and still might fail. Iran's been playing poker while the West plays Old Maids.

* Iraq could fail - if the Iraqis fail themselves. It's still too early to pack up and leave, but if the people of Iraq will not seize the opportunity we gave them to build the region's first Arab-majority rule-of-law democracy, it won't be an American defeat, but another self-inflicted Arab disaster. Iraq is the Arab world's last chance - and the odds are now 50-50 they'll throw it away.

* Lebanon, the region's other "almost" democracy, is in shambles, thanks to Hezbollah's ruthlessness and Israel's misjudgments. By failing to take Lebanon's complex group psychologies into account, Israel's air campaign converted Hezbollah opponents into Hezbollah supporters.

* Syria escaped the recent fighting with just a few tactical nicks. Now Bashar Assad appears stunningly unaware of his odious regime's vulnerability. And over-confident dictatorships do very stupid things.

* The region's Sunni- Arab autocracies - on which we have relied, to our great shame - are terrified and unstable. Egypt, the Gulf city-states and even Saudi Arabia expected Israel to make short work of the Shia-Hezbollah problem. Instead, Hezbollah won - and the subjects of those sheiks and kings and eternal presidents have been cheering.

* Crucial oil producers on the Arab side of the Persian Gulf grow more vulnerable each day. Iran intends to exert hegemony over the region through nuclear threats and the exploitation of Shia discontents. The world's worst real-estate investment is luxury property in Dubai.

There's more, of course, from the Islamist takeover in Somalia, at the region's southern edge, to the Dorian Gray decomposition of the Pakistani state at its eastern extreme. So what on earth might give us cause for hope?

* Israel's recent defeat, for one thing. Yes, you read that right. The truth is that Israel got a relatively cheap, if embarrassing, wake-up call. And Israel's a part of Western civilization, not of the Middle East's decaying cultures. That means that Israel doesn't just wallow in blame - like Americans, Israelis figure out what went wrong and then fix it. After the post-war soul-searching and investigations are finished, failed leaders will be replaced and Israel will re-emerge with a renewed sense of mission, a stronger government and a powerfully reformed military - the next time the IDF goes to war, watch the way it devastates its enemies.

* The "unity of Muslims" confronting the West is history (it was always a bogus, ramshackle affair). Sunni-Arab leaders increasingly grasp that the real threat isn't from the United States or Israel, but from the explosion of Shia ambitions, prowess, wealth and desire for vengeance. The future of the Middle East could go a number of ways, but we may find ourselves as bemused spectators, while our sworn enemies and phony friends kill each other. Afterward, we'll pick up the pieces.

* Iraq still could muddle through - but even if it doesn't, our stock in the region is headed up, not down. The paradox is that a future civil war between Iraq's Sunnis and Shias makes our military protection more essential than ever to the effete Gulf emirates and the cowardly Saudis. Avoid linear analysis and reflexive predictions of doom for American interests: The Middle East will always do more harm to its natives than it does to foreign powers. Human beings may hate a distant enemy in theory, but they generally prefer to kill their neighbors.

* Terrorist groups with global aspirations continue to pursue grand, counterproductive gestures rather than effective actions. Plots to blow up a series of airliners, lesser strikes on subways or trains in the West and even the eventual "big one" they'll pull off won't convince the West to surrender. Despite intermittent left-wing lunacy, our debates and disagreements are about how best to solve the problem - not how to capitulate. Bit by bit, the Western mood is turning from disbelief regarding the "terrorist threat" to hard-knuckled realism about extremist Islam. 9/11 taught the terrorists little of use and many wrong lessons. It may be hard for some of us to discern what's really happening, but the Islamists are resurrecting a militant, ruthless West.

The florid American master of horror fiction, H. P. Lovecraft, warned his characters, "Do not raise up what ye cannot put down." Islamist terrorists are reviving the West's thirst for blood. And this time it won't be slaked in Flanders.

Things are going to get uglier east of Suez. And we're going to win.

Ralph Peters' new book is "Never Quit the Fight."


50 posted on 08/21/2006 4:58:24 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ( Ignorance is correctable with education, but stupid is forever.)
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To: Crazieman

Based on how well the financial markets peformed last week, I predict nothing serious will happen. If there's a big selloff in the stock market today then that could change my prediction, but the big players on Wall Street usually know what's happening in the world and right now they're tell me nothing much will happen.


51 posted on 08/21/2006 5:01:43 AM PDT by defenderSD ("Rise early, work hard, strike oil." - J. Paul Getty)
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To: illuminator413

Newbie makes unsourced predictions.

1. If he's right he'll be proclaimed a genius.
2. If he's wrong, he will be quickly forgotten.

No reputation at risk. Nothing to lose. Lots to gain.

I ain't buyin' it.


52 posted on 08/21/2006 5:07:36 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Cindy; backhoe
I want a fatwa declaring 6 weeks of no jihad.

I got the 2006 fatwa, with air conditioning, XM radio, and cruise control.

53 posted on 08/21/2006 5:08:36 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I've had it with these &%#@* jihadis on these &%#@* planes!)
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To: SlowBoat407
I got the 2006 fatwa, with air conditioning, XM radio, and cruise control.

Hard top, or convertible?

54 posted on 08/21/2006 5:11:53 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Matchett-PI

bttt


55 posted on 08/21/2006 5:15:12 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Hong Kong Expat
What the recent war between Israel and Lebanon proved was Hezbollah is stronger than we thought, and Israel is weaker than we thought.

What it proved is that Hezbollah is more PR savvy than we thought, and Israel is still somewhat constrained by those pesky "morals". I don't think anyone had any illusions that a guerrilla army hiding among a civilian population could be completely destroyed, but Hizb'allah managed to manipulate the situation powerfully. That is their strength. Couple that with the world's unwillingness to cut off the supply of weapons and financial aid, and no army could take them out without laying waste the entire south of Lebanon.

56 posted on 08/21/2006 5:15:17 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I've had it with these &%#@* jihadis on these &%#@* planes!)
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To: illuminator413
From what I have read the Shiites do not commemorate Rajab 27 as the journey of Mohammed on his flying steed to Jerusalem, thus the light in the skies over Jerusalem. This is a Sunni tradition

While my knowledge is limited, this would seem to be similar to predicting an action by Presbyterians by referencing a Saint's Day from the Roman Catholic calendar as the cause.

57 posted on 08/21/2006 5:15:45 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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Well, I can see I picked a happy upbeat thread to enjoy with my coffee.


58 posted on 08/21/2006 5:16:10 AM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: backhoe

Fully armored, of course.


59 posted on 08/21/2006 5:16:11 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I've had it with these &%#@* jihadis on these &%#@* planes!)
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To: wildcatf4f3
"I hope they hit the records dept. at Visa and Mastercard."

Excellent idea! LOL!

Carolyn

60 posted on 08/21/2006 5:20:01 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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