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Mammoths may roam again after 27,000 years
Times on line/ Drudgereport ^ | Aug. 15, 2006 | Mark Henderson, Science Editor Times on line

Posted on 08/15/2006 4:46:58 AM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing

BODIES of extinct Ice Age mammals, such as woolly mammoths, that have been frozen in permafrost for thousands of years may contain viable sperm that could be used to bring them back from the dead, scientists said yesterday.

Research has indicated that mammalian sperm can survive being frozen for much longer than was previously thought, suggesting that it could potentially be recovered from species that have died out.

Several well-preserved mammoth carcasses have been found in the permafrost of Siberia, and scientists estimate that there could be millions more.

Last year a Canadian team demonstrated that it was possible to extract DNA from the specimens, and announced the sequencing of about 1 per cent of the genome of a mammoth that died about 27,000 years ago.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: creation; dna; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; iceage; mammoth
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To: Young Scholar
The standard for evidence must be formidable in Alabama.

The standard of evidence in Alabama is truth.

141 posted on 08/15/2006 4:13:49 PM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: Tokra
Funny, I seem to remember being taught that the ice age that killed the dinosaurs killed the mammoth as well.
142 posted on 08/15/2006 4:15:17 PM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: Condor51
I predict this will be mammoth thread.

I predict you will be proven right, I also predict that I will have a ton of fun. Amazing how thin the skin is on those whose religion is Evolution.

But, enough chit chat, back to the fray.

143 posted on 08/15/2006 4:17:48 PM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: katyusha
... (approximately 2 million to 10,000 years ago).

Now, that is what aI would call inexact science. qsowhere in the range of 10,000 to 2,000,000 years ago. Yes, that pins it down for me.

144 posted on 08/15/2006 4:19:54 PM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: HayekRocks
One would have thought even creationists had heard that stone-age humans made cave paintings of mammoths. As the great philosopher Homer Simpson would put it, DOH! >/I>

Uh, yes, but they also made drawings of dinsaurs. and we all know that dinosaurs were extinct millions of years before man. DOH!

Well, not me, but,those who are oh so smarter than me.

145 posted on 08/15/2006 4:24:04 PM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: af_vet_rr
Well, no matter what you believe in as far as how long they have been extinct, I hope they won't be extinct for that much longer, even if they are 50% mammoth and 50% elephant or whatever. If they could pull this off, they could really get kids back into science and math, something we need in this country.

Amen!

146 posted on 08/15/2006 4:26:34 PM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
Funny, I seem to remember being taught that the ice age that killed the dinosaurs killed the mammoth as well.

Either your teachers were morons or your memory is shot.

147 posted on 08/15/2006 4:30:16 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
those who are oh so smarter than me

It's astonishing how few people that excludes. Some folks who can't feed themselves without making a mess are on the other side of that particular line.

148 posted on 08/15/2006 4:36:30 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
The standard of evidence in Alabama is truth.

You and I clearly have divergent definitions of one or all of the following words:

standard
evidence
truth
Alabama

149 posted on 08/15/2006 4:40:51 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
"Funny, I seem to remember being taught that the ice age that killed the dinosaurs killed the mammoth as well."

Then either your memory is inexact or your were taught incorrectly. The current interglacial (one of many) started ~10,000 - ~18,000 years ago. The glacial period that preceded the current interglacial lasted ~100,000 years. The mammoths were not killed off by the advance of ice but the advance of man. The dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago, probably due to multiple bolide collisions (One large and several smaller).

150 posted on 08/15/2006 5:02:34 PM PDT by b_sharp (Why bother with a tagline? Even they eventually wear out! (Second Law of Taglines))
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To: Protagoras
And if a tour guide said it, it's true.

The tour guides at the Mammoth Dig Site were graduate students who were also there studying their subject. It was really pretty interesting. Maybe you should visit and educate yourself?

151 posted on 08/15/2006 5:07:06 PM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing; katyusha
"Now, that is what aI would call inexact science. qsowhere in the range of 10,000 to 2,000,000 years ago. Yes, that pins it down for me."

You seem to be having trouble grasping the nuances of dating systems.

Let me take a stab at explaining it to you.

katyusha states: migrated northwards during the Pleistocene (approximately 2 million to 10,000 years ago)

The 'Pleistocene' is a name given the time period from 1.8 million years ago to 12,000 years ago. This is a named time period in the same sense that the month of August is a time period.

Many things can occur in that time period. Just as you (or others) go to work 22 times or so in August, just as you go shopping in the month of August, just as you may go on vacation in the month of August, during the Pleistocene, glacial and interglacial periods mark the advance and retreat of large glaciers in the Northern hemisphere. During each of those glacial periods, Mammoths, or their immediate ancestors, migrated south. During the interglacial periods, those periods where the glaciers retreated, the mammoths, or their ancestors, migrated North.

You can see from this that there is no 1,900,000 year uncertainty in the dating as your post suggests.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about named time periods and Mammoth migration.

152 posted on 08/15/2006 5:19:42 PM PDT by b_sharp (Why bother with a tagline? Even they eventually wear out! (Second Law of Taglines))
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
First evolutionist said that the mammoth has been extinct for billions of years, then it was millions of years and now it is but 27,000 years.

Even the rabid evolutionist does not deny that man walked the earth for more than 3,000 years. So man and mammoth walked the earth together, wow, Dawin must be rolling over in his grave.

Funny, I seem to remember being taught that the ice age that killed the dinosaurs killed the mammoth as well.

OK I got you now. But it's not nice to deceive Creationists by pretending to be one of them.








(I should have realized you weren't one from the shortage of Creationists posting on the thread to validate you)

153 posted on 08/15/2006 5:29:05 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (They have a saying in Chicago Mr Bond once happenstance, twice coincidence, three times enemy action)
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To: poindexter
"I was once killed by a Wooly Mammoth."

...i wonder if that was the same one that bit my sister...?

154 posted on 08/15/2006 5:43:21 PM PDT by BlueDragon (a handgun is best used for fighting one's way to a RIFLE)
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
Uh, yes, but they also made drawings of dinsaurs. and we all know that dinosaurs were extinct millions of years before man. DOH!

Did they really? And you will be citing sources for this, after you cite the scientist who claimed mammoths died out billions of years ago?

Well, not me, but,those who are oh so smarter than me.

Could you please narrow it down a little, perhaps to six billion or so?

155 posted on 08/15/2006 6:07:30 PM PDT by HayekRocks
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing

confused and lost judges...


156 posted on 08/15/2006 6:09:32 PM PDT by fabian
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To: null and void

Bwahahahaha.... very funny!


157 posted on 08/15/2006 6:27:49 PM PDT by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
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To: Thermalseeker

No thanks, I was just kidding. Maybe you should stop by your local five and dime and buy a sense of humor. LOL


158 posted on 08/15/2006 8:07:33 PM PDT by Protagoras ("Minimum-wage laws are one of the most powerful tools in the arsenal of racists." - Walter Williams)
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To: HayekRocks
Hayek Rocks let me join in with your request!
"Uh, yes, but they also made drawings of dinosaurs"

What cave paintings show drawings of dinosaurs ?
159 posted on 08/15/2006 8:13:18 PM PDT by Reily
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
Have to stock up on lighter fluid.


160 posted on 08/15/2006 8:25:24 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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