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DNA Test Can Detect Picts' Descendants
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 8-14-2006 | Auslan Cramb

Posted on 08/14/2006 6:17:14 PM PDT by blam

DNA test can detect Picts' descendants

By Auslan Cramb, Scottish Correspondent

(Filed: 14/08/2006)

A geneticist has created a DNA test for "Scottishness" that will tell people whether they are direct descendants of the Picts.

The test, expected to cost about £130, checks a sample of saliva against 27 genetic markers linked to some of the earliest inhabitants of Scotland.

Dr Jim Wilson, of the public health sciences department at Edinburgh University, said: "We started this work a few years ago, looking at the Norse component, and we proved that a large proportion of people on Orkney are descended from Vikings.

"Now the markers have moved on massively and we have discovered that we can trace back the component of the indigenous Picts by looking at the unique grouping of their Y-chromosome. We believe that this would have been found only in Scotland."

Scientists were able to isolate the unique Pictish DNA strands from 1,000-year-old bone fragments found in ancient burial grounds


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To: blam

This is not news. As a direct decendent of a true Viking, I'm probably related to half the peope on the planet.

Hey what can I say, they got around.

Where do you think the Irish got their red hair, the Scott's their frugalness and bad tempers, the English their common laws, the Russians an end to complete political anarchy, who opened trade routes with China and the Middle East before that guy Marco somebody and who first discovered "the New World"?

It wasn't the French. (and even the Normans were not French but the decendents of Vikings.)


21 posted on 08/14/2006 6:31:04 PM PDT by Caramelgal (There can be no happiness if the things we believe in are different from the things we do.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

If you pass the Pict test are you then required to paint yourself with wold (blue) then stand buck naked in a bog


22 posted on 08/14/2006 6:32:07 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Caramelgal
Other way around on the red hair ~ Vikings picked that up from their trusty slave women brought direct from Ireland.

Of course when it came to Scotland, the Vikings acquired the redhair from their trusty Irish masters who were busy reducing the Picts to a fine nothingness.

I'm not sure there were any Picts around in 1000 AD.

23 posted on 08/14/2006 6:39:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Reily

And bleach your hair?


24 posted on 08/14/2006 6:40:23 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Caramelgal
The Vikings removed political anarchy? Somehow that doesn't go with the traditional Viking stereotype. The Vikings did travel far and wide though. They were sort of the Polynesians of the north.
25 posted on 08/14/2006 6:43:10 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Reily
"If you pass the Pict test are you then required to paint yourself with wold (blue) then stand buck naked in a bog"

Well...one can always hope...;)

26 posted on 08/14/2006 6:43:27 PM PDT by Khurkris (When the levee breaks there'll be no place to hide.)
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To: blam
Can't speak to the legitimacy of getting "DNA strands from 1,000-year-old bone fragments" but DNA is now becoming mainstream in genealogy. I had my DNA done by FamilyTreeDNA and found an unknown (lost?)relative. What a rush.

Here is an article that speaks to DNA use for us amateurs http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_4144963

27 posted on 08/14/2006 6:44:33 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: tongue-tied
Isn't there an old Pink Floyd song called Grooving With The Picts"?

No, but there was one called "Several species of small furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving with a pict".

Although you have to stretch the meaning of the word "song" to cover it...

28 posted on 08/14/2006 6:45:38 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: blam
we proved that a large proportion of people on Orkney are descended from Vikings.

Duh... but then again proof is proof, I guess.

29 posted on 08/14/2006 6:49:14 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | Appeasement=Suicide | Hezbo rockets carry "peaceheads")
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To: Izzy Dunne; cripplecreek

That's right, now I can even hear the words being sung...er, said.


30 posted on 08/14/2006 6:54:00 PM PDT by tongue-tied (Go Cubs!)
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To: Reily
If you pass the Pict test are you then required to paint yourself with wold (blue) then stand buck naked in a bog

I think we did that in college. But it was after a different test.
31 posted on 08/14/2006 7:19:19 PM PDT by true_blue_texican
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To: Holden Magroin

I thought the English disliked anyone not an Englishman.


32 posted on 08/14/2006 7:25:35 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Most Viking strerotypes were promulgated by the English their enemies. Sort of like if we asked around in the Middle East today for an accurate description of Americans. Vikings were technologically more advanced than mainland Europeans. That's how they dominated them in war and yes even "culture". English women appreciated that Viking men used combs and bathed often something it took awhile for the Englishmen to figure out.


33 posted on 08/14/2006 7:56:47 PM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X = they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Strategerist

They look for the Glenfiddich label.


34 posted on 08/14/2006 8:24:34 PM PDT by 308MBR ( "She pulled up her petticoat, and I pulled out for Tulsa!" Abstinence training from Bob Wills.)
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To: blam
A geneticist has created a DNA test for "Scottishness"

I thought that the test for "Scottishness" used a quarter and a storm grate.

35 posted on 08/14/2006 8:25:10 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (I'll have the duck with mango salsa.)
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To: Reily

Aye laddie. Hacking a few Angles with your Claymore isn't a bad idee either.


36 posted on 08/14/2006 8:26:42 PM PDT by 308MBR ( "She pulled up her petticoat, and I pulled out for Tulsa!" Abstinence training from Bob Wills.)
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To: cripplecreek

Actually, it's

Several Species Of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In A Cave And Grooving With A Pict

Sing along, everybody!


37 posted on 08/14/2006 8:39:52 PM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: Cymbaline; Strategerist; cripplecreek
I got it. Been had it many years.


38 posted on 08/14/2006 9:27:30 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: peyton randolph

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, you are so right.LMAO


39 posted on 08/14/2006 9:37:29 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Funny, I know that's RAH, but the first part sounds a bit like something from Archy and Mehitabel, by an author whose first name was Don, can't for the life of me remember his last name.
He was an early 20th century newsman/columnist.


40 posted on 08/14/2006 9:39:29 PM PDT by skepsel
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