[FormerACLUmember]

Another queer pretend conservative showing his/her/its true nature.

[RichInOC]

I don't think Andrew's been on the rez for a long while.

[OldFriend]

Hard to even feel sorry for this pervert anymore.

[grey_whiskers]

Isn’t strapping a person to a board, tilting him so that his head is below his feet, and pouring water through a cloth into his mouth to simulate drowning a form of "cruel, inhuman and degrading" treatment? And isn’t that illegal? In America? Or is that not America either?

Anti Gay Twit Sarcasm Torpedo ARMED. FIRE!!

By all accounts, that's nothing compared to what goes on among "consenting adults" in gay bathhouses and elsewhere, eh, Andy?

Why don't you pick a fight with Harvard's Alan Dershowitz who once agreed torture would be justifiable to prevent another terrorist attack...He's a liberal, just like you.

Nice try, though.

[Dinah Lord]

Dude, where you been? IIRC Andrew jumped the shark a long time ago.

[ladyinred]

NO ONE was tortured and abused unless you count those who had their heads cut off by those murdering scum who are the enemy! This just infuriates me!

[hsalaw]

Oh, dear; not Andrew Sullivan's whining again. His rants are a form of torture, and he's less of a conservative than my cat.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

There was an unfortunate tendency during the 90's to label every one who was not enamored with Clinton as a "Conservative".

Andrew Sullivan falls in this catagory.

[Lurker]

Isn’t strapping a person to a board, tilting him so that his head is below his feet, and pouring water through a cloth into his mouth to simulate drowning a form of "cruel, inhuman and degrading" treatment?

Actually no, it isn't. No actual physical harm is done.

Now taking a blowtorch and a pair of pliers to the genitalia of captured 'insurgents' might be considered cruel by some. Put me on the jury and I'll let the Intel weenies walk on that one every time.

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[Tribune7]

I don't think it was a shark he jumped.

[Gondring]

Anyone taking issue with what he said, rather than ad hominem drive-bys?

Let's look at this for a moment... if we can do these things to unconvicted detainees, then why can't we do them to convicted felons? Why aren't we waterboarding convicted felons?

Because of legal decisions... so that leads to... is America a nation ruled by law anymore?

[FlingWingFlyer]

Andy has obviously been listening to too many Neil Young albums and listening to tapes of Hanoi Boi's campaign speeches. He was for the war on terrorism before he was against it. Shut up Andy. Just shut up and let the adults do what has to be done. It's a dirty job but someone has to do it.

[NinoFan]

Andrew has never been a real conservative. He is the most vile, hate-filled writer of today. He constantly whines about everyone and everything. Why anyone would bother to read his garbage is beyond me.

[BluH2o]

If the men and women who tortured and abused and murdered at Abu Ghraib did not represent America, what did they represent? They wore the uniforms of the United States military. They were under the command of the American military. In the grotesque, grinning photographs they clearly seemed to believe that what they were doing was routine and approved.

Murdered? What happened at Abu Ghraib under the command of U.S. forces wasn't much more in the way of torture than a college sorority hazing incident. The liberal slimes in the media are beyond help, their overwhelming hate of the U.S. military, and the Bush administration in particular, is off any scale remotely close to normalcy.

[Diogenesis]

[purpleland]

"...the use of unmuzzled dogs to terrify detainees long before Abu Ghraib occurred..." NOT TORTURE!

BTW, Excerpt:

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That’s what makes a picture like Invasion of the Body Snatchers important. [1]
[1958 Blk/Wht film classic]
This theme is directly expressed in the film by McCarthy's character, who says at one point:

In my practice, I've seen how people have allowed their humanity to drain away. Only it happened slowly instead of all at once. They didn't seem to mind...All of us--a little bit--we harden our hearts, grow callous. Only when we have to fight to stay human do we realize how precious it is to us, how dear. [2]
Later, the psychiatrist Gates, himself turned into a pod person, gives a speech that sounds like Siegel's musings on the attractions of conformity:

Your new bodies are growing in there. They're taking you over cell for cell, atom for atom. There is no pain. Suddenly, while you're asleep, they'll absorb your minds, your memories and you're reborn into an untroubled world...Tomorrow you'll be one of us...There's no need for love...Love. Desire. Ambition. Faith. Without them, life is so simple, believe me. [3]

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[Nonstatist]

He hasnt been a "conservative" since '03. He does like to advertise for male sex partners (tops, specifically) on the internet, though, in case anyone cares.

[Earthdweller]

Andy Andy Andy. What a shame that you have to insist on blaming a whole country for the actions a few. Could you possibly have an agenda?

[editor-surveyor]

How does he qualify as a conservative?

[Congressman Billybob]

Let's follow the "logic" of this latest screed by Andrew Sullivan. If nations are indeed responsible for what their citizens do, then it was Britain that bombed the London Tubes. It was Saudi Arabia that bombed the WTC. And it was Yemen that bombed the USS Cole.

More British bullsh*t. Did I miss anything?

P.S. New info. My primary is over, but because of legal and ethical problems, the incumbent may withdraw/be forced out. He is also losing in the latest poll (5/28) to the Democrat challenger. I seek to be the replacement nominee. For more information see my website. I still need your help.

Congressman Billybob

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