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The Eleven GOP Senators who voted to give Social Security to Illegals (Vanity)
no dems

Posted on 05/22/2006 4:26:39 PM PDT by no dems

O.K. Freepers, here’s the list of Pubbies who voted with the Dems Thursday to give Social Security benefits to Illegal Aliens.

Brownback (KS)

Chafee (RI)

DeWine (OH)

Graham (SC)

Hagel (NE)

Lugar (IN)

Martinez (FL)

McCain (AZ)

Specter (PA)

Stevens (AK)

Voinovich (OH)

I must admit that I was shocked by Brownback’s and Lugar’s votes.


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To: no dems

Where is the AARP on this issue with regard to Social Security?

When the FICA TAX IS doubled with not maximum for employees and employers, may be the people will see the impact of all of the illegal immigration?

The same goes for the MEDICARE tax withheld from the paycheck.

There is no free ride for illegal aliens!


21 posted on 05/22/2006 4:49:41 PM PDT by petkus
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To: no dems

Well I hope President Bush and Santorum are pleased to have supported RINO specter.....and Santorum will pay the price come election day.....

Maybe we should vote them ALL out of office and start over....starting with McPain....


22 posted on 05/22/2006 4:50:19 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: DoughtyOne

I will look into it, but while we can trash these three on immigration, they are consistently conservative senators.


23 posted on 05/22/2006 4:50:42 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: goodnesswins

.........is money going into that ONE account?....

We have not been given that info. Pesumably the SSA knows of the bogus payments to heavily used bogus numbers. That money is in the treasury and cannot be given to the illegals simply because we don't know who they really are. I can see no reason how they could ever collect benefits for the period they are not legally known by the system

The other question is what about illegals using my number? Do I get the benefits and will my monthly paymnet grow as a result?

That's why I think this is all a scam.


24 posted on 05/22/2006 4:50:50 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: DollyCali

well, Ohio's illustrious duo show up again on a list of shame!


Oh yeah! Let's all be sure to rush out and return these two to office...........


25 posted on 05/22/2006 4:51:52 PM PDT by WhiteGuy ("Every Generation needs a new revolution" - Jefferson)
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To: no dems
I’ve just about decided that it would be worth giving control of the Senate to the low-life, scum bag Democrats rather than reward this bunch of Rinos

I have to admit sitting home this November is tempting. But we cant give congress to them no matter what. Pelosi speaker of the House? A dem running the defense appropriations committee, not to mention Leahey running the judiciary!
26 posted on 05/22/2006 4:53:21 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

And let's not forget that NOT one of these SOB's who represent us pay into Social Security! They have their own retirement accounts that us legals can't even get!


27 posted on 05/22/2006 4:54:02 PM PDT by runvus (RUNVUS)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

If I voted 100% along ACU lines and then voted to extend SS benefits to people who had no identification, were here illegaly and in violation of our nations laws by even working here, how would you rate me?

That's how I rate them, at the very least on this issue.

This is a defining issue for me.


28 posted on 05/22/2006 4:54:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The United 'Door Mats' of America! Go ahead, scrape your feet on it. Everyone else is.)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Your defense of Brownback reminds me of an infantile joke about a one-time practitioner of male, oral homosexuality. He claimed to have done lots of great things, built giant buildings, long bridges, won battles, etc., etc.

“Nobody ever called me a great builder or a great general,” he lamented, “but let me suck ~one~ little _ _ _ _ and what do they call me?”

Brownback has done some good things, but he is badly wrong on one little issue. And it is defines him now, another RINO along with McCain, Graham, Specter and the rest.

29 posted on 05/22/2006 4:55:03 PM PDT by LK44-40
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To: no dems

from Rass after the speech...

55% Say Immigration "Very Important" Voting Issue
Survey of 1,000 Likely Voters

May 16, 2006

Immigration in Terms of Voting

Very Important 55%
Somewhat Important 29%
Not Very Important 12%
Not at All Important 3%
RasmussenReports.com


May 17, 2006--Fifty-five percent (55%) of Americans say that the immigration issue is "very important" in terms of how they will vote this November. Another 29% say it is somewhat important.

The Rasmussen Reports national opinion survey taken the night after the President's nationally televised address also highlighted a common misconception about the immigration debate.

Media commentaries often suggest that support for an enforcement first policy is an option supported primarily by conservatives. In fact, 67% of political moderates support such an approach. That's virtually indistinguishable from the 66% of conservatives who support for enforcement-first approach. Fifty-two percent (52%) of self-identified liberals also hold this view.

Most voters who hold an enforcement-first perspective also favor a national policy that welcomes all immigrants (except national security threats, criminals, and welfare seekers).

Those results are consistent with earlier research that show most Americans recognize our nation as both a nation of immigrants and a nation of laws.

Fifty-three percent (53%) believe that strict enforcement of immigration laws and control of the border would help the economy. Just 21% believe strict enforcement would hurt the economy while 14% say it would have no impact.

Data released separately shows that just 39% of Americans agree with President Bush's approach on the immigration issue. An equal number disagree.

Other data from the survey shows that Democrats now enjoy a 15-point advantage on the Generic Congressional Ballot. That's up from a 10-point lead two weeks ago.

These results are generally similar to earlier surveys on the immigration issue. A separate survey conducted the night of President Bush's speech found that just 27% of Americans believe the country is heading in the right direction.

A look at all of our research on this topic makes it clear that neither political party has yet developed policy or rhetoric that reflect an understanding of the nuances of the immigration debate. We have recently released immigration related polling data on May 3, April 26, April 11, April 7, and April 1.

Earlier surveys on immigration have found support for building a barrier along the Mexican border and positive attitudes towards citizen patrols along the border. Another survey found that most Americans consider current immigration laws a threat to both national security and the economy. Three-fourths of all Americans believe it is too easy for people from other countries to enter the United States.

Attitudes towards immigration do not fall neatly along typical partisan, demographic, or ideological lines. For this reason, among others, the immigration issue ultimately has the potential to shake up the current partisan alignment in the nation.

However, the impact of the issue varies widely by region. In several southwestern states, the issue is considered more important than the situation in Iraq by roughly half of all voters.



30 posted on 05/22/2006 4:55:23 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Deport the United States Senate)
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To: HarleyLady27
SANTORUM's ACU Rating: 2005: 92% 2004: 96%

Years of Service: 15:

Lifetime Rating: 88%

Now, how prudent would it be to replace a Pennsylvania Republican, with an ACU lifetime rating of close to 90%, and simply because he backed Arlen?

31 posted on 05/22/2006 4:55:30 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: no dems
McCain?????

Well, that should qualify him to go head to head with Hillary on the Dem ticket. Right?

Oh, Wait! Isn't he considered one of the Republican front-runners against Hillary in '08?

Hey, somebody gimme a sanity pill, quick! I'm hallucinating!

32 posted on 05/22/2006 4:57:06 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: no dems

... the Wall Of Shame...


33 posted on 05/22/2006 4:57:33 PM PDT by Gritty (The sewer that is Washington DC is now looking like a hot tub to the GOP - Richard Viguerie)
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To: DoughtyOne

It's okay but you will have to admit that you are a single issue voter.


34 posted on 05/22/2006 4:57:37 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: no dems
I got the following Email and probably you have received this in your mail

If so just disregard.

Many years ago in Seattle, two wonderful neighbors, Elliott and Patty Roosevelt came to my home to swim on a regular basis. They were a great couple full of laughter and stories that today I continue to marvel at. Both are now deceased, but their stories remain. During the years of our friendship we had many, many discussions about his parents (President Franklin D. and Eleanor Roosevelt) and how his father and mother never intended for the Social Security and Welfare programs to turn out the way they are today. Elliott used to say that if his mother returned to earth and saw what the politicians had done to their programs she would have burned all of them in hell.



Here is a story I received today regarding the Social Security Program



Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised:



1.) That participation in the Program would be completely voluntary,

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual incomes into the Program,

3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year,

4.) That the money the participants put into the independent "Trust Fund" rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and,

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.


Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to "put away," you may be interested in the following:





Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent "Trust" fund and put it into the General fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.




Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.




Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the "tie-breaking" deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the U.S.





Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

AND MY FAVORITE:

A: That's right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!





Then, after doing all this lying and thieving and violation of the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!


And the worst part about it is, uninformed citizens believe it!



If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve. Maybe not, some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn't so.




But it's worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?



Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.
Please forward this E-mail to others so that they can be informed of the truth.






--
Jack D. Hanson
Precision Engraving
104 Pleasant Plains Road
Jackson, TN. 38305
(469) 424-1891
35 posted on 05/22/2006 4:57:56 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: no dems

There was a time when Richard Lugar was a reliable conservative but he's gotten too fat and comfortable mingling with the "in" crowd in Washington. He been a total RINO for the last 5 or 6 years now.


36 posted on 05/22/2006 4:58:32 PM PDT by joebuck
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To: WhiteGuy
Oh yeah! Let's all be sure to rush out and return these two to office...........

Don't blame me, I just moved back here, and would have voted against Dewine in the primary if I had been around for it.

37 posted on 05/22/2006 4:59:43 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: RoseofTexas
Our best and finest are getting their butts shot overseas, and out politicians are back-filling the population base with low to non-productive types who just walk in....

What the hell is going on????

38 posted on 05/22/2006 5:00:03 PM PDT by pointsal (Q)
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To: DoughtyOne
You are right.... just big tent RINOS
39 posted on 05/22/2006 5:00:40 PM PDT by pointsal (Q)
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To: LK44-40

You're right it's an infantile joke. So you are willing to hang Brownback, with a lifetime ACU rating of 95%, because you believe he is wrong on this issue? If so, the joke is on you.


40 posted on 05/22/2006 5:01:17 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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