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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: streetpreacher

Why would you be frightened by me?

But the ten per cent at FR who say that they hate Bush and the twenty per cent who say let the RATs take control of Congress frighten ME very much.


3,381 posted on 05/18/2006 10:20:45 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: wardaddy
Let me put it this way to you.

In the years I have watched politics, one of the common practices of either party is to use the people who are not up for election who are safe to do dirty work.

Had the people been up for election voted for amnesty or giving SS to illegals, do you think they would win reelection? NO.

So, my point is we need to remember the bad politicians and not give them the grace of forgetting what they voted in when their terms are up years from now.
3,382 posted on 05/18/2006 10:22:36 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: wardaddy

That is a response? To change Nashville to Tennessee? Had you claimed there were 100,000 Illegals in TENNESSEE I would have justshutupandtaken it.


3,383 posted on 05/18/2006 10:23:09 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: streetpreacher

Mad Mo is Mohammed. The "Apostle" of "God".


3,384 posted on 05/18/2006 10:24:11 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Don't forget the MOABites and the Nuke Meccans.


3,385 posted on 05/18/2006 10:25:26 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Grampa Dave

They told us he was "annointed" remember?


3,386 posted on 05/18/2006 10:26:37 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: nopardons
I did not lump you in a club dear, but I know who they are as does almost anyone who dares criticize Bush over this issue (or any other). I courtesy pinged you.

You atta boyed Rokke for his customary dismissal of my views and I felt you deserved a courtesy ping since you has expressed interest in my exchange with Rokke ...someone with whom I have substantive disagreement.

The posts made about George Bush on this forum during those days are public record.

Folks today are banned for a fraction of that.

Warm and fuzzy was not a description I used. But Conservatism here used to trump Republicanism, of that there is no doubt.

And the very folks riding high scorched earth and high fiving one another while completely out of sync with any poll I've seen of the GOP base over dissent with Bush are almost precisely those who were ready to reject this joint over JR's Schiavo posture.

There will come another issue where you guys will not enjoy the cover you have now. You can bank on it. I hope we can all still be here to savor that moment..lol
3,387 posted on 05/18/2006 10:27:23 PM PDT by wardaddy (I miss Marty Robbins.)
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To: Vicomte13

Only after sufficient land grants. I don't come cheap.


3,388 posted on 05/18/2006 10:27:32 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: George W. Bush

It is impossible to change but there should be a requirement that only tax payers can vote if you want to get at stopping the give aways.


3,389 posted on 05/18/2006 10:29:21 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: A CA Guy
Well....Frist seemed to have gotten a little firmer.

We have to keep beating the drum.

I can't recall in my adulthood when elected officials have gone contrary to their constituents as in this one...in the face of poll after poll.
3,390 posted on 05/18/2006 10:29:36 PM PDT by wardaddy (I miss Marty Robbins.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

OK it wasn't loaded anyway.

Tony has a big job ahead of him but my Left Foot could have done a better job of handling that pack of rabble than McClelland. Tony is trained in this sort of exchange so he is on his own ground.

Plus the Treason Media's task with Tony is like trying to make Cary Grant look bad who could fall in spagetti sauce and come up looking debonair and unflappable.


3,391 posted on 05/18/2006 10:32:57 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: wardaddy
Yes, it is almost like they all are either bribed or feel they know something else that none of us are privileged to know about. Like a national security issue.

Or maybe they all got the mad cow?
3,392 posted on 05/18/2006 10:33:41 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: wardaddy; Warren_Piece

I need no link to something that proves ME right Lol.


3,393 posted on 05/18/2006 10:34:47 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: wardaddy

Little Bush? Who the heck do you think you are? Actually I imagine this would be a great place for DemonRats to hang out, especially now. You do love this Country and Capitalism don't you?

Pray for W and Our Troops


3,394 posted on 05/18/2006 10:36:10 PM PDT by bray (The only thing lower than Bush' numbers are the press')
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To: streetpreacher

#3373 explains what the rabble is and how to join to any confused about it.


3,395 posted on 05/18/2006 10:37:37 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: nopardons

Here in Chicago where the RAT Machine does not cooperate with immigration authorities the entire affair was just another RAT rally graced with such outstanding political leaders as the Senators and City officials. But let's attack the GOP anyway it is SOOO fun.


3,396 posted on 05/18/2006 10:43:05 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Tribune7

This is what I have been screaming from the roof tops and pulling my hair out. Now being mute and bald I can only watch in horror as the tail wags the dog.


3,397 posted on 05/18/2006 10:45:00 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit; NewRomeTacitus; fieldmarshaldj; pnz1; Fledermaus

"Nashville, TN: In a stunning display of solidarity, an estimated 13,000 to 14,000 demonstrators for civil rights for immigrants gathered in Nashville in the largest such demonstration in recent memory. Following on the large civil rights demonstrations in Chicago, Los Angeles, and Phoenix, thousands gathered in Nashville, the home state of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist to demand civil rights for immigrants. The assembled crowd, chanting "We can do it, yes we can!" and "We are not criminals, We are not leaving, We won't Go!" marched from the Titans football stadium in East Nashville to the Legislative Plaza directly across from the State Capital building. An estimated fifty police patrolled the march but there were no reports of police misconduct or arrests. Additionally, about twenty counterprotesters gathered across the street from the rally where they were mostly ignored. The assembled crowd, which was so large that it spilled off of legislative plaza and onto surrounding streets, remained for two hours, listening to speakers and chanting, then marched back to East Nashville around 8pm. The event was organized by the Tennessee Immigrant Rights and Refugee Coalition."


So how many do you figure if 14K hit the streets and remember Nashville metro is not East LA....very little of that Che-Azatlan attitude here. Plenty of gangs and crime but not so much Mexinationalism out in the open. I live here. We have about 1.5 million metro. I would wager that at least 15% of Rutherford County is Hispanic and mostly illegal. That's 25-30,000 just right there and with 8 more counties to go. 100,000 is only 6.6%. Some groups here now argue there are more latinos than blacks even. It sure looks that way. Where are you? Do you not have this where you are. One town South of here on the outskirts of metro Nashville is Shelbyville....they are overrun. Don't have enough schools. Sorry, but I bet you there are 100K illegals in the 9 county metro Nashville area...at least. I pinged some locals...ask them


3,398 posted on 05/18/2006 10:50:53 PM PDT by wardaddy (I miss Marty Robbins.)
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To: A CA Guy

If you believe we are going to get 10 million new Illegals a year what can anyone say? It is amazing what people will believe.


3,399 posted on 05/18/2006 10:50:57 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: bray

LOL...love your username.

It fits you nicely


3,400 posted on 05/18/2006 10:53:12 PM PDT by wardaddy (I miss Marty Robbins.)
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