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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; falsestory; getaclue; gwot; illegalimmigration; illegals; incorrectstory; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; minutemanproject; minutemen; moonbatbarking; nationalsecurity; notaccurate; nutcases; saraacarter; saracarter; wot
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To: Shimmer128
I'm pretty new here. Why would the moderators take this off of Breaking News?

I logged onto FR a saw this story in 'breaking news' but it was pulled for the reason "title does not match headline" when I clicked on it - I did not post the original thread. I found the original article and reposted it with the matching headline but it was pulled soon after as IrishMike beat me to it by a few minutes.

It's a shame though as this one is not in Breaking News (where it should be) and really only the usual suspects will see it.

101 posted on 05/09/2006 7:07:49 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: Vision
That's fine. All my RNC money is now going to the minute men.

Good idea. http://minutemanproject.com/

102 posted on 05/09/2006 7:07:56 AM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ 2005, Texas Minutemen El Paso, Oct and April 2006)
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To: TomGuy
TomGuy writes:
If you vote for the same, you'll get more of the same.

Post of the day, TomGuy.

I WON'T be voting for "more of the same" this election.

That doesn't mean I will vote for a Democrat - never, never, NEVER again will I do that.

But probably won't be voting Republican, either.

It's either sit on my hands, or vote third party.

If the Pubbies lose, they lose. Face it - they richly DESERVE to lose this time.

Flame me if you wish, but this is one guy who has had enough of this nonsense.

- John

103 posted on 05/09/2006 7:08:36 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: trubluolyguy

There are various allegations around that are distorting the Minutemen such as: (just Google it, man)
http://www.svherald.com/articles/2005/03/20/local_news/news1.txt
Militia leader Casey Nethercott believes the border needs to be controlled; but he's against the upcoming Minuteman Project.
BY BILL HESS
Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:19 AM MST
"James Gilchrist is swinging the door open for every wacko, and wackos are the bad percentage of white supremacists, white power," Nethercott said. "They're racists he cannot control."


104 posted on 05/09/2006 7:08:39 AM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: Borax Queen; Czar; janetgreen; JustPiper; Smartass; Americanwolf; Americanwolfsbrother; ...
...the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are.

Ping!

105 posted on 05/09/2006 7:09:11 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: Kakaze

The silence will be deafening, this is indefensible.



They tend to avoid threads like this one as Superman would avoid kryptonite.


106 posted on 05/09/2006 7:09:47 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (I love coffee....I love it GOOD!)
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To: mdbob

sorry...we have troops on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan...I won't abandon them by voting for the Democrats. Rank and file Repubs are as concerned about illegals crossing from Mexico (see support ofr the Sensenbrenner bill). The problem is within the administration. Pres Bush is wobbly on illegal "immigration".


107 posted on 05/09/2006 7:09:48 AM PDT by sofaman ("The Argument from Intimidation is a confession of intellectual impotence." Ayn Rand)
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To: mdbob
I agree that a third option is missing. That is why I have not voted in the poll until I saw the story about reporting on the minutemen to the Mexicans. Seeing it, I went to the poll and voted to turn it over to the rats. Why not? And don't tell me they could be any worse.

The best I could do is not vote in the poll. However, the upcoming elections will be another story...

108 posted on 05/09/2006 7:10:31 AM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ 2005, Texas Minutemen El Paso, Oct and April 2006)
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To: TomGuy
Could Kerry have done any worse? I doubt it.

At this point I agree with you. With a democrat in office, the GOP senators would have acted like conservatives again and put severe restraints on Kerry.

109 posted on 05/09/2006 7:10:42 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: mewzilla
Your post reminded me of this link from Michelle Malkin's website, fall 2005...

I haven't ever read her articles. Thanks looks interesting.

110 posted on 05/09/2006 7:11:16 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: JeffAtlanta

well the border patrol needs more money in order to watch the minutemen!


111 posted on 05/09/2006 7:11:18 AM PDT by conservative physics
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To: SouthernFreebird
Uh oh, you must be one of those 2004 deep-cover trolls and/or 'seminar' posters that is working so diligently towards disrupting GOP unity. Hint: mentioning the 'I' word at FR will bring the 'bots out in full attack mode.

In the future, please refrain from mentioning anything at all about constitutional matters as that would distract the GOP stalwarts from their "Party over Principles Platform" (tm).

112 posted on 05/09/2006 7:12:14 AM PDT by lemura
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To: griswold3
that's evidence? One man makes a statement, and you state catagorically that skinheads have infiltrated the Minutemen?

Careful, you might pull a muscle while jumping to conclusions.

113 posted on 05/09/2006 7:12:57 AM PDT by sofaman ("The Argument from Intimidation is a confession of intellectual impotence." Ayn Rand)
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To: cva66snipe
I haven't ever read her articles. Thanks looks interesting.

Michelle Malkin has been on top of this issue for years now. She is an immigrant herself (legal) but she still gets called a Filipino whore when she speaks up against illegal immigration.

114 posted on 05/09/2006 7:13:24 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: ovrtaxt

The Republicans will lose the house and the senate if this report is correct.


115 posted on 05/09/2006 7:13:31 AM PDT by VOATNOW1
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To: sofaman
Pres Bush is wobbly on illegal "immigration".

There is nothing wobbly about this. It's traitorous.

116 posted on 05/09/2006 7:13:38 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: TLI
BS poll. Bush Republicans are NOT conservatives. Just here on FR, even trying to try and drum up support for "real" conservatives is met with resistance as being "extreme".

So, we have a choice:

  1. Turn it over to the Rats.
  2. Vote in more GOP mandated/supported RINO's and get Democrat-Light
  3. Kick 'em all out of office and re-institute the Constitution as the "Law of the Land".

How to do that last one is what our discussions SHOULD center on. "If we always do what we've always done, we shouldn't be surprised when we get what we've always gotten."

117 posted on 05/09/2006 7:13:45 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: Vision

My money hasn't been going to the GOP for awhile. They have left us in the dust. I can't understand where they think they are going but I know this I will not follow!


118 posted on 05/09/2006 7:14:16 AM PDT by gocats
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To: TLI
If I go third party it's going to be constitution party

same here

I share your frustration but no on needs to tell you that with Hillary peaking at 45-46% to go third party plays directly into her hands. So if you want to elect Hillary be my guest. But then don't complain.

We truly are between a rock and a hard place. But having said that, it does not pay to elect the socialist/commie candidate for the other side.

119 posted on 05/09/2006 7:15:34 AM PDT by rodguy911 (.)
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