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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; falsestory; getaclue; gwot; illegalimmigration; illegals; incorrectstory; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; minutemanproject; minutemen; moonbatbarking; nationalsecurity; notaccurate; nutcases; saraacarter; saracarter; wot
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To: rodguy911

I'm on it.


81 posted on 05/09/2006 7:01:15 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: doc30
OK. It ius beyond obvious now. The Border Patrol is part of Homeland Security which is under the Executive Branch of government.

That department is in the top 5 of the worst mistakes Bush made. It is nothing more than a make jobs for friends program.

82 posted on 05/09/2006 7:01:16 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: JeffAtlanta

I was actually reading your thread when the link, then the thread got pulled.
I googled the headline and reposted from a different 'news source', then your re-appeared, before it was pulled a second time.

Hat tip to you


83 posted on 05/09/2006 7:01:27 AM PDT by IrishMike (Dry Powder is a plus)
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To: rodguy911
Is there anyone here on this thread who can get this info to Rush for his show today?

I don't think Rush takes suggestions from the little people.
84 posted on 05/09/2006 7:01:32 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: DuncanWaring
So, ultimately we're at the point where the choices are "Really, really bad" and "Absolutely ghastly".

It would seem so. Elections seem to end up being the lesser of two evils. Could Kerry have done any worse? I doubt it. The best we can hope for at this stage is gridlock in 06. Maybe someone better will emerge by 08, but from the GOP's baker's dozen+a couple more wannabes, none really seem likely.
85 posted on 05/09/2006 7:01:35 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: The South Texan
Not much. The Liberatrain party will have my support this November

I'm sure you realize the Libertarian Party is passionately for open borders.

86 posted on 05/09/2006 7:02:12 AM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: IrishMike

From the current FR Poll.

A time for choosing: It appears that a significant number of our members are so disgusted with the GOP's failure to secure our borders against illegal aliens that they are willing to risk all by voting them out of office, even if it means Pelosi, Reid, Hillary, et al, are allowed to take charge. Is this the best course of action or should we be working harder than ever to hold the line and actually try to make a difference by getting more constitutionally-minded conservatives elected? Are you willing to give it all up or are you more determined than ever to keep the Marxists out of power?
1. Turn it over to the Rats?
2. Work harder to get conservatives elected?
Results.................
Composite Opinion
Work harder to get conservatives elected 79.5% 3,279
Turn it over to the Rats 20.5% 847
100.0% 4,126
Member Opinion
Work harder to get conservatives elected 84.7% 1,741
Turn it over to the Rats 15.3% 315
100.0% 2,056
Non-Member Opinion
Work harder to get conservatives elected 74.3% 1,538
Turn it over to the Rats 25.7% 532
100.0% 2,070

You know what? I believe that it is a "time of choosing" but option 3 is missing from this poll...


87 posted on 05/09/2006 7:02:35 AM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ 2005, Texas Minutemen El Paso, Oct and April 2006)
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To: B Knotts
Actually there are more than two people in prison for treason for giving Israel lifesaving information about terrorists.

Giving a foreign government secret information is, I believe, considered treason, but I guess when it comes to MEXICO, the U.S. Government considers us all the same country!!!

88 posted on 05/09/2006 7:02:47 AM PDT by zerosix (Romans 5:8)
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To: TomGuy

"There is no viable 3rd choice, unless enough people show their disgust and go elsewhere. "

True. I had hoped that the 3rd-party Perot spoiler of 2008 would be on the left. Looks more likely to be on the right, tho.


89 posted on 05/09/2006 7:02:59 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: IrishMike

This is really unbelievable if accurate. Our own Border Patrol colluding with Mexican officials. They can dress it up as some sort of diplomatic manuever, but the net result, I imagine, is that more illegals get across the border.


90 posted on 05/09/2006 7:03:02 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Shimmer128

it was a duplicate thread....yet another thread popped up on the same topic...therefore, it was yanked. Jim Rob, founder of FR, drove along with the Minutemen convoy just a few days ago, I believe....


91 posted on 05/09/2006 7:03:41 AM PDT by sofaman ("The Argument from Intimidation is a confession of intellectual impotence." Ayn Rand)
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To: rodguy911

Done.


92 posted on 05/09/2006 7:04:01 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: griswold3

The Minutemen were infiltrated by "skinheads" who are dangerous.



First I've heard of it. Do you have a link or just spouting mis-information?


93 posted on 05/09/2006 7:04:17 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (I love coffee....I love it GOOD!)
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To: IrishMike

[[This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type]]

Unless, of course, that lawlessness is committed by illegal aliens that are invading our country, stealing social services and laughing in our faces. More politically correct nonsense. American patriots are portrayed as the enemy and the law breaking illegals are portrayed as the victims.


94 posted on 05/09/2006 7:04:50 AM PDT by Buffettfan (VIVA LA MIGRA! - LONG LIVE THE MINUTEMEN!)
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To: cva66snipe
Your post reminded me of this link from Michelle Malkin's website, fall 2005...

Katrina's unemployed and job competition from illegal aliens

95 posted on 05/09/2006 7:05:08 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: IrishMike

This keeps getting worse and more worse!!!


96 posted on 05/09/2006 7:05:16 AM PDT by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist, cynic or right wing extremist!)
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To: TLI



I'm afraid before too long taking up arms is going to be the only option available to us.


97 posted on 05/09/2006 7:05:21 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Jim Robinson

ping


98 posted on 05/09/2006 7:06:35 AM PDT by thoughtomator (A thread without a comment on immigration is not complete)
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To: Jeff Head

...and, having said that, a Gore or a Kerry would have been infintely worse on all counts.



And how friggin' pathetic that too many considered either those two chuckle heads of W to be their only choices. I bet in '08 when we have more Marxicans in this country than in Marxico, the American people settle for the same two disgusting "choices."


100 posted on 05/09/2006 7:07:47 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (I love coffee....I love it GOOD!)
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