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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; falsestory; getaclue; gwot; illegalimmigration; illegals; incorrectstory; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; minutemanproject; minutemen; moonbatbarking; nationalsecurity; notaccurate; nutcases; saraacarter; saracarter; wot
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To: Jeff Head
Jeff, I agree with everything you wrote in that post.

When this President addressed our nation after 9-11 I mentioned to my wife that many times in history the right man comes along at the precise moment he is needed most.

I only wish that that same man would take a leadership role in this mess we find ourselves in at this time but he is nowhere to be found. Well he's there, but he has not taken a leadership role and is simply spouting rhetoric that is getting us further and further behind the infamous eight-ball.
61 posted on 05/09/2006 6:55:07 AM PDT by Cagey (Doesn't play well with others)
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To: B Knotts

They are wrong big time on this issue. This issue is so definitive and so obvious...amongst the citizens of this nation, it has huge traction across all geographic, political, and racial lines IMHO.


62 posted on 05/09/2006 6:55:25 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: griswold3

"Skinheads"? No kidding...um...PROOF!!??


63 posted on 05/09/2006 6:55:38 AM PDT by sofaman ("The Argument from Intimidation is a confession of intellectual impotence." Ayn Rand)
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To: B Knotts



There is no way to make this go away.


To actively fight against your own citizens who were forced to do the damn job our elected officials refused to do is unforgivable.

I might just make it to the polls and pull the D lever, if we're gonna give the Country away it might as well be to the devil I know as opposed to the mexican goverment.


64 posted on 05/09/2006 6:55:42 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: IrishMike
WOW! Your government in action.

I know it's off point, but can anyone tell me....

All the businesses and factories which were moved to Mexico and intended to screw American labor and give Mexican labor the chance to build things under NAFTA & GATT....

If all that was so good for America (and especially good for Mexico), why the heck are all the Mexicans coming HERE?

None of this New World Order crap makes any sense unless you are a millionaire+ who can move money around to suit changing economic conditions.

65 posted on 05/09/2006 6:57:08 AM PDT by FixitGuy
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To: ovrtaxt
Ditto here, it's unbelievable.
66 posted on 05/09/2006 6:57:34 AM PDT by rodguy911 (.)
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To: IrishMike
OK. It ius beyond obvious now. The Border Patrol is part of Homeland Security which is under the Executive Branch of government. Based on this report, this indicates Bush is essentially in colusion with Fox to ignore U.S. security, ignore immigration law and expidite the entry of illegal aliens into the U.S. While Bush is securing Iraq's border's, he is leaving the U.S. border wide open.

Let's face the music. The current administration will not do anything to secure the U.S. border. In fact, they will undermine any effort to do so.

67 posted on 05/09/2006 6:57:52 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: IrishMike

Next up: We will hear that the "nuclear football" has been turned over to China for safekeeping - and they have changed the access codes. [every day day I read the news out of DC and the blood pressure rises- who needs caffine anymore?]


68 posted on 05/09/2006 6:58:09 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: JeffAtlanta
The congress has about 4 or 5 months to get something done on the border or the GOP is toast. Just announcing that they are giving the Border Patrol more money isn't going to cut it with the voters this time.

This one issue may be the straw that breaks the Camels back. Blue collar jobs such as Construction non union jobs are being taken by illegals. People who never had political thoughts in their life are now madder than hell at the GOP for not taking a tough stand. The GOP would be wise to listen.

69 posted on 05/09/2006 6:58:12 AM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: Cagey
Thanks. They are missing the boat on this issue...big time. It is a defining and clarifying issue. It is truly an all-American issue and it has resonance across all geographic, political, and race boundaries amongst the citizens. It is obvious to any common American.

I pray Bush and the GOP Senate turn around on this...there are already plenty within the GOP who see it clearly...reference the overwhelming support of the Sensenbrenner bill in the house.

70 posted on 05/09/2006 6:58:41 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: IrishMike; All

Is there anyone here on this thread who can get this info to Rush for his show today?


71 posted on 05/09/2006 6:58:55 AM PDT by rodguy911 (.)
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To: IrishMike

the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are.



Our government would appear to be in open revolt against the will of the people. Now what do we do about it?


72 posted on 05/09/2006 6:58:59 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (I love coffee....I love it GOOD!)
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To: TomGuy
"There is no viable 3rd choice, unless enough people show their disgust and go elsewhere. "

No not yet, but this issue (D's are mad as hell too) could give birth to a real third party. Not just a split the GOP party but a party of Americans vrs the elitist globalist Rat/GOP parties.

73 posted on 05/09/2006 6:59:03 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: IrishMike

TREASON...


74 posted on 05/09/2006 6:59:35 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: IrishMike
The fact that this info is made public...tells me that this is an intimidation tactic by the Border Patrol (the Bush Admin) against the Minutemen.

Boggles the mind. Call me, USAToday, and we'll make it 29%.

75 posted on 05/09/2006 7:00:03 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: IrishMike

That's fine. All my RNC money is now going to the minute men.


76 posted on 05/09/2006 7:00:05 AM PDT by Vision (Newt/Pence '08)
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To: B Knotts

I'm pretty new here. Why would the moderators take this off of Breaking News?
I've never gone there, but I think I will now, and see what's there. Do the moderators have an agenda that I don't know about? Are they tilted toward President Bush, no matter what he does? What's up?
Man, this place is complicated.
Please email or freepmail me if you have answers for me.

This story is just crazy and I'm going to send it around to every list I'm on and every one I know.
Thanks all.


77 posted on 05/09/2006 7:00:27 AM PDT by Shimmer128 (Well, i WAS proud of America....sigh)
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To: mysterio
"So our government is calling Mexico to warn them where not to cross illegally?"

Brilliant, sir! I think you've got it!

78 posted on 05/09/2006 7:00:31 AM PDT by Designer (Just a nit-pick'n and chagrin'n)
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To: IrishMike

This sickens me. Unfortunately, I have to go to work right now - but tonight when I get home - I will be emailing my representatives. The GOP has finally lost my support! I will be looking for other alternatives & they are not in the Democrat party either.

IT'S TIME FOR A REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!


79 posted on 05/09/2006 7:00:38 AM PDT by alicewonders
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To: B Knotts; Jeff Head
No kidding. Admittedly, this one was posted first, but I suspected they'd pull that one because it was in Breaking News. Which is where this belongs, frankly. It's outrageous

Is it against FR rules to post a different story by a different author covering the same topic? I don't originate many threads so I'm not that aware of the thread origination rules.

80 posted on 05/09/2006 7:01:15 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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