"Muslim Opinion" Be Damned

The Ayn Rand Institute ^ | Monday, February 6, 2006 | Alex Epstein

[livius]

The proper response to Islamists and their supporters is to identify them as our ideological and political enemies--and dispense justice accordingly.

Yes! The problems we are having now are caused precisely by the fact that we have played nice with these guys. To them, nice = weak. And weak = conquered.

[Cannoneer No. 4]

"Oh, I am heartily tired of hearing about what the Muslims are going to do. Some of you always seem to think they are suddenly going to turn a double somersault, and land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. Go back to your command, and try to think what are we going to do ourselves, instead of what they are going to do.”

[river rat]

Well now....

With the whole world being informed by MSM that the overwhelming majority of Muslims hate Americans, Jews, Christians, Hindus or every Non-Muslim on the planet - and have threatened to murder us all ----- they have unwittingly provided the self defense "defense" to any American that shoots the first Muslim that comes screaming down the street in their typical violent manner of "protest"...

Semper Fi

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

Wow. This sums it all up the best I have ever heard yet!

At the micro level...it would like telling a battered spouse or child to "try to understand the abuser"...and for the courts to "reward" the abuser to make him feel better about the abused. After all, nobody would beat the crap out of you without it always being your fault!

So let me get this right. The liberals don't want anyone to violently abuse others, yet it's ok for Islamofascists to do that and we should try to just be nicer to them and they will stop.

[Stepan12]

You're channeling Gen. Grant during the Battle in the Wilderness, I think.

[livius]

Great quote - what is it from?

It sums up one of the big problems, though: we are reacting rather than planning. Of course, Islamic strategy has always been geared to getting a reaction - which they have already predicted and for which they have planned their response - to some provocation.This is the phase we are in right now. However, if the attacked country or group doesn't respond to the provocation (as Clinton did not), the Muslims wait for awhile and attack anyway, considering the failure to respond to be a sign of weakness.

We have to have our own attack - not response - plan thought out, and I'm not convinced we have one. I think Bush, who is a good and idealistic man, may be so convinced by his own rhetoric that he is ignoring the simple fact that these people, BASED ON THEIR INSANE IDEOLOGY, hate us and want to kill us. No ifs, ands or buts.

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

Hmmmm...that's a direct quote that U.S. Grant made to one of his commanders in 1864 concerning Robert E. Lee.

[Fitzcarraldo]

Islamic thought is a virus in the corpulent body of liberalism.

[M. Espinola]

Each day the West has five golden opportunities to give the jihadist horde a good swift kick in the pants - "neutron style" :)

Swiss Muslims pray in front of the house of parliament during a demonstration in Berne, February 11th, 2006. The protesters staged a demonstration on Saturday to protest against cartoons of the Prophet "camel dung" Mohammad printed by Danish and European media. REUTERS/Sebastian Derungs

[Cindy]

ON THE NET...

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[angelsonmyside]

BTTT

[Hexenhammer]

One of the best articles I've read in a long time.

[sgtbono2002]

If anyone was wondering how to stop the media from hounding them , here is the answer, Give them a threat they can believe. They are Cowards when faced with a real threat.

[ansel12]

" they have unwittingly provided the self defense "defense" to any American that shoots the first Muslim that comes screaming down the street in their typical violent manner of "protest"..."

They actually do that. I've always read a lot and have been aware since the 60s that it is common for Muslim men to go postal , usually using a machete, sometimes a cop will use his pistol. I'm not aware that this has become popular in the U.S. but I assume at some point it will become another part of our culture.

[Emmett McCarthy]

There's no such thing as islamic "thought". Their worship of their "allah" controls everything.

[Sabramerican]

President Bush, like most politicians and intellectuals, has taken the opposite approach to "Muslim opinion": appeasement. Instead of identifying anti-American Muslims as ideological enemies to be discredited, he has appealed to their sensibilities and met their demands--e.g., sacrificing American soldiers to save Iraqi civilians and mosques. Instead of seeking to crush the Islamists by defeating the causes they fight for--such as Islamic world domination and the destruction of Israel--he has appeased those causes, declaring Islam a "great religion" and rewarding the Palestinian terrorist Jihad with a promised Palestinian state. Instead of destroying terrorist regimes that wage war against the West--including, most notably, Iran--he has sought their "cooperation" and even cast some as "coalition partners."

Every word true, and worse.

A truth that is very much denied by many Republicans/Conservatives/Freepers.

[stockstrader]

I agree.

The willingness of the liberal news media to totally "CAPITULATE AND APPEASE" radical muslims is just astounding. Their capilulation will only be seen as weakness, nothing more--and encourage those 'nut cases' to make even more 'demands' in the future at any perceived slight!

What in the heck are these so-called media elite thinking?? Can they cite any historical examples where 'capitulation and appeasement' in the face of threats from lunatics and maniacs--works?

[EBH]

Bwahhaa! Conversation from earlier this week with a friend:

Me
" What we're seeing and feeling we're internalizing as it being perhaps prejudice and discrimination, when it may really be much less sophisticated than that. It is fear and intimidation. For me these feelings started welling up earlier this week and I shunned them as the beginnings of my own prejudices. Until a friend and I had a chat about a completely unrelated topic.

The topic was about an abusive relationship. A narcissistic personality and how it poisons a woman into submission. A women will stay in that relationship until one of two things happen. She dies or decides she has had enough and gets out. But to get to that decision she has to be afraid for her life/children, she has to be angry enough to overcome her fear, she may even come to terms with hate.

Thinking about all the nuanced platitudes from Imams, suicide bombers, threats, and now demands for submission to the first of sharia laws feels a lot like that narcissistic relationship. And that I think is what I am feeling."

Response:
"I'm just ANGRY at this point. Not a good idea to piss off a whole generation of menopausal women. I'm sitting on my hands so I won't do something I'll regret later. You're right, it is very similar to kicking out a violent, controlling husband. I've been there, done that and the feelings are approaching the same place. Woe unto them."

[livius]

My foot is itching...