Posted on 11/13/2005 6:07:54 AM PST by NYer
CBN.com SEATTLE, Washington - The Dover, Pennsylvania school board is on trial in the state capitol. Their crime? They wanted to tell high school students once a year that evolution is only a theory. They also wanted to mention an alternate theory: Intelligent Design, or ID.
That was too much for some parents. They sued, claiming ID is religious and therefore illegal in school. The judge will decide the case in the next few weeks.
So is ID really just religion in disguise? Do both biology and astronomy support ID? And who are these people promoting ID?
To answer those questions, we went to the Discovery Institute in Seattle, the major proponents of ID.
Dr. Stephen Meyer is the head of Discovery's Center for Science and Culture. He says to ban design theory as mere religion is wrong.
"And in fact,” Meyer said, “it's a science-based argument that may have implications that are favorable to a theistic worldview, but the argument is based on scientific evidence."
But perhaps these ID experts are not really reputable?
Mayer stated, "These are people with serious academic training. They are Ph.D.s from very, not just reputable -- but elite -- institutions. And they are people doing research on the key pressure points in biology and physics, and so their arguments are based on cutting-edge knowledge of developments in science."
So what is the evidence from researchers like biochemist Dr. Michael Behe, a Ph.D. graduate of the University of Pennsylvania and a senior fellow of the Discovery Institute?
He is an expert on a special kind of bacteria called flagella. Inside the bacteria are exquisitely engineered ‘inboard motors’ that spin at an amazing 100,000 revolutions per minute.
Darwin said that such complexity must have developed piece by piece. Behe said that is bunk. All the pieces must be in place at the same time or the motorized tails would never work.
Darwin's gradual theory has no good explanation for that -- ID does.
Behe makes the case for ID in a video called "Unlocking the Mystery of Life." The video’s narrator declares, “A thimbleful of liquid can contain four million single-celled bacteria, each packed with circuits, assembly instructions, and molecular machines..."
"There are little molecular trucks that carry supplies from one end of the cell to the other,” Behe explained. “There are machines that capture the energy from sunlight, and turn it into usable energy."
ID experts say the more you know about biology -- and some of the weird creatures like this island lizard -- the worse it gets for Darwinism.
Consider the workings of the genetic code. That code produces all kinds of molecular machines, plus all the other components of life. ID advocates say that to believe those components are just Darwinian accidents takes a blind faith in the creativity of dumb molecules.
So with growing evidence of ID, isn't Lehigh University proud of this cutting-edge scientist who teaches there—and wrote the 1996 bestseller "Darwin's Black Box?" Hardly.
In August, all the other (22) biology faculty members came out with a political statement on the department's Web site. They stated that "Intelligent design has no basis in science."
But they cited no evidence, and made no references to any scientific research.
Dr. John West, a political scientist at Seattle Pacific University, is senior fellow at Discovery Institute. He says these political responses to scientific issues are getting nasty.
West remarked that "hate speech, speech codes, outright persecution, and discrimination is taking place on our college campuses, in our school districts, against both students and teachers and faculty members."
In fact, universities are evolving into centers for censorship. Five years ago, Baylor University dismissed mathematician Dr. William Dembski from his position, primarily because he headed a center for ID there.
This September, the University of Idaho banned any dissent against evolution from science classes -- a slam on university biologist Dr. Scott Minnich, a noted supporter of ID.
"The school seems to be confusing where it's at,” West said. “Is it in Moscow, Idaho, or the old Moscow, Russia? ...in issuing this edict that…no view differing form evolution can be taught in any science class."
And at Iowa State University, more than 100 faculty members have signed a petition against ID -- an apparent political attempt to intimidate ISU astronomer Dr. Guillermo Gonzalez because he writes about ID.
Gonalez is, in fact, co-author with philosopher Dr. Jay Richards of "The Privileged Planet." Both scholars are also connected with the Discovery Institute.
The book and related video argue that astronomy also shows evidence of design. For instance, the earth has numerous aspects just right for our existence.
Gonzalez explained, "...We find that we need to be at the right location in the galaxy...that we're in the circumstellar habitable zone of our star (correct distance from the sun)...that we're in a planetary system with giant planets that can shield the inner planets from too many comet impacts...that we're orbiting the right kind of star -- it's not too cool and not too hot.”
These are just four of 20 some characteristics of earth that make our planet unique -- right for life, right for discovery by human science.
Richards said, "So you have life and the conditions for discovery happening at the same places. That, to us, suggests that there is something more than a cosmic lottery going on. That sounds like a conspiracy rather than a mere coincidence. So that to me is a tie-breaker in the question."
And there is more -- the finely-tuned underlying rules of the universe-- or physical constants. One of them is gravity. But what if gravity were not constant?
A film clip from Privileged Planet says: "Imagine a machine able to control the strength of each of the physical constants. If you changed even slightly from its current setting, the strength of any of these fundamental forces -- such as gravity -- the impact on life would be catastrophic."
In plain terms, a bit more gravity would mean any creature larger than the size of a pea would be crushed into nothing. And a little less gravity would mean that the Earth would come unglued and fly off into space.
But Darwinism has been maintaining that advanced life is easy to produce all over the universe.
"Almost everything we've learned in the area of astrobiology suggests that, 'Look, this is just not going to happen very often' -- now that might be sort of depressing for script writers for sci-fi movies, but that's where the evidence is taking us," Richards said.
Despite the attacks on ID, Meyer said the design interpretation of the evidence is exposing Darwinism as a theory in crisis:
"I think we're reaching the critical point where Darwinism is going be seen as simply inadequate,” Meyer asserted, “ -- and therefore the question of (intelligent) design is back on the table."
Just as this city of Seattle has all the earmarks of ID, so does nature, except that nature is infinitely more intricate.
The Holy Warrior Dummy Dance is grownups behaving very badly in public.
That's a daily occurrence for me:).
You watchin' or dancin'?
From my viewpoint, you are semi-failing at being a troll.
From my viewpoint, you are semi-failing at being a troll.
Thanks....I think. :) Maybe I am more handsome than I think. Actually, the daily occurrence is in reference to what REALLY occurs in public for me, if you haven't figured that out already from the dumb one-liners:).
And this is the reason for the shrill screams; these people are too credible, and authoritative to allow their assertions to stand. Evolutionists faith is on the line.
Thanks for the ping!
Claire Rind and Peter Simmons, "Orthopteran DCMD Neuron: A Reevaluation of Responses to Moving Objects, PUBLISHED IN Journal of Neurophysiology (electrically monitoring the activity of a brain cell in a locust while that locust was watching selected highlights from the movie "Star Wars.")
Edward Cussler and Brian Gettelfinger of the University of Minnesota, "Will Humans Swim Faster or Slower in Syrup?" PUBLISHED INAmerican Institute of Chemical Engineers Journal, ((conducting a careful experiment to settle the longstanding scientific question: can people swim faster in syrup or in water?)
Victor Benno Meyer-Rochow of International University Bremen, Germany and the University of Oulu, Finland; and Jozsef Gal of Loránd Eötvös University, Hungary, "Pressures Produced When Penguins Pooh -- Calculations on Avian Defaecation." PUBLISHED IN: Polar Biology ((using basic principles of physics to calculate the pressure that builds up inside a penguin).
Ramesh Balasubramaniam of the University of Ottawa, and Michael Turvey of the University of Connecticut and Haskins Laboratory, "Coordination Modes in the Multisegmental Dynamics of Hula Hooping," PUBLISHED IN Biological Cybernetics ((exploring and explaining the dynamics of hula-hooping).
Ben Wilson of the University of British Columbia, Lawrence Dill of Simon Fraser University [Canada], Robert Batty of the Scottish Association for Marine Science, Magnus Whalberg of the University of Aarhus [Denmark], and Hakan Westerberg of Sweden's National Board of Fisheries, REFERENCE: "Sounds Produced by Herring (Clupea harengus) Bubble Release," PUBLISHED IN Aquatic Living Resources, vol. 16, 2003, pp. 271-5. REFERENCE: "Pacific and Atlantic Herring Produce Burst Pulse Sounds ((showing that herrings apparently communicate by f*rting.)
And finally:
Stefano Ghirlanda, Liselotte Jansson, and Magnus Enquist of Stockholm University, for their report "Chickens Prefer Beautiful Humans." PUBLISHED IN: Human Nature (no explanation necessary or possible).
Why should anyone listen to someone like you, when you're a known and well-documented liar?
Arnd Leike of the University of Munich, "Demonstration of the Exponential Decay Law Using Beer Froth," PUBLISHED IN, European Journal of Physics, (for demonstrating that beer froth obeys the mathematical Law of Exponential Decay).
Chris McManus of University College London, for his excruciatingly balanced report, "Scrotal Asymmetry in Man and in Ancient Sculpture." PUBLISHED IN: Nature
Chittaranjan Andrade and B.S. Srihari of the National Institute of Mental Health and Neurosciences, Bangalore, India,: "A Preliminary Survey of Rhinotillexomania in an Adolescent Sample," PUBLISHED IN Journal of Clinical Psychiatry (a probing medical discovery that nose picking is a common activity among adolescents.)
Peter Fong of Gettysburg College, "Induction and Potentiation of Parturition in Fingernail Clams (Sphaerium striatinum) by Selective Serotonin Re-Uptake Inhibitors (SSRIs)," PUBLISHED IN: Journal of Experimental Zoology (he contributed to the happiness of clams by giving them Prozac)
Robert Matthews of Aston University, England"Tumbling toast, Murphy's Law and the fundamental constants," PUBLISHED IN: European Journal of Physics , (demonstrating that toast often falls on the buttered side and is subject to Murphys Law.)
Be grateful. I spared you the publications from France, as well as the Annals of Sex Research.
One is measureable and observable - ergo, subject to scientific positivism. The other is not.
I see book covers, but I don't know what's inside, so I have no idea if they mention creationism or not.
"Our strategy has been to change the subject a bit so that we can get the issue of intelligent design, which really means the reality of God, before the academic world and into the schools."
That you present that as damning evidence would seem to indicate that you are now conflating belief in the existence of God with young-Earth, seven-day creationism.
Unless your real objection is not to creationism per se, but to according credibility to belief in God.
Dimensio has been tasked with this assignment.
And what would they call something that merely has a linear tendency to the upper left direction?
A part of an X?
A precursor X?
An X ancestor?
Or an ex-X?
And, in the end, HE made the decision.
This is the same concept that IDer's want: put BOTH factions into play and let the best man win.
"We report: You decide."
Then he'd be a trol?
Well.....
...who DON'T??
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