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Official Election Day 2005 Watch [Live Thread]
Shameless Vanity Post | November 8, 2005 | BillyBoy

Posted on 11/07/2005 11:46:41 PM PST by BillyBoy

My Fellow FReepers,

As it now past midnight (well at least for those of us in Central Standard Time) and I did a general search and couldn't find a single thread dedicated to election 2005, I have taken the liberty of creating one.

THIS is the place to post all your updates and discussions on '05 races around the country. From the Boston Mayoral Race to the fight for Virginia Attorney General, keep the adrenaline flowing here.

Will the GOP make a midterm gubernatorial comeback after suffering through the 2001 "mistakes" of McGreeley and Mark Warner? Will Ahnuld, the CA Dummycrats, or independent minded conservatives emerge triumph in California's latest (but not greatest!) "special election"? Will the liberal incumbent crush his equally liberal challenger in New York? And do conservatives even care?

Let's get the discussion rolling folks. You heard it here first!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: Ohio; US: Texas; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: forrester; jerrykilgore; joinarnold; nj; noneed4alivethread; notbreakingnews; virginia
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To: kabar

correct.


701 posted on 11/08/2005 6:13:45 PM PST by oceanview
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To: RoseofTexas
"We kicked butt! 80% turn out! I LOVE MY STATE!"

Rose, I love our state too, but the current voter turnout is being reported as right around 4%.
That's a long way from 80%!!

702 posted on 11/08/2005 6:13:50 PM PST by Redbob
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To: JohnBDay

gotta agree he ran a less than credible campaign, and with all that money he could have done much better...


703 posted on 11/08/2005 6:13:55 PM PST by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: hattend

I guess from those that would look at the web site ....suppose it would be more likely to be Orange County...but they really didn't seem to have any check as to your locale.


704 posted on 11/08/2005 6:14:28 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: NapkinUser
Anyone have a link for the Ohio and Texas results?

All 4 Ohio issues (2-5) sponsered by out of state leftists groups are losing, some of them handily.

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/Results/RaceSummary.aspx

In non-presidential years we are one deep red state

705 posted on 11/08/2005 6:14:36 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Ohio, vote no on issues 1 thru 5, Especially issue 4 , shut up and go home Arnold (CA))
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To: Patriot from Philly

"I am finding Chris Matthews is growing totally strange on this CIA case."

Matthews and his buddies are off their rocker



Donaldson Says Cheney “Knew” What Libby Was Doing, While Fineman Calls Bush “The Godfather”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1516937/posts


706 posted on 11/08/2005 6:14:40 PM PST by Mo1
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To: kabar

My take-

Kilgore ran a poor campaign.

Conservatives are not enthused, not motivated to turn out.

Historically the opposing Party does well in this race in Virginia.

Had either the first or second been different, the race could have narrowly been won.

Lessons-

1) Dems maintained the status quo.

2) Republicans need to Run better campaigns

3) Start addressing the concerns of the base so that they are motivated to turn out. This last most important.

Pretty simple really.

The Democrat ran on a "conservative" platform. Won, though not by a blowout. While history favored the Dems in this race, had Republican (conservative) voters been happy they could have broken the historical model.

It isn't as triumphant for the DNC as they'll suggest, but it does suggest Republicans need to realize they could have won ground if their base was happy.


707 posted on 11/08/2005 6:14:42 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: kabar

VA race may be over, but the NJ one is just beginning. 35 percent of NJ voters are independents. High taxes and corruption is our major issue. It is going to be close and the outcome may not be known till late tonight. Dems coalition is FDR elderly, minorities and single women. Forrester had a gender gap (soccer moms and prof single women), but high taxes is weighing heavily on the soccer moms while the prof single women are emotional split on high taxes and abortion. If Forrester wins narrowly it will be these women making their last minute decision in the polling booth.


708 posted on 11/08/2005 6:14:51 PM PST by Fee (`+Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: Heartofsong83

----any word on New Jersey?----

52-44 Corzine with almost a third reporting. The GOP loses there too.

-Dan

709 posted on 11/08/2005 6:15:17 PM PST by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: HitmanNY
Have you not paid any attention the past week and a half? This has been the WORST week for democrats in FIVE YEARS! NOTHING has gone your... I mean, "their" way. 8)

Got Libby on silly unprovable charges.

Unemployment down.

GDP UP more than expected.

Iraq elections better than expected, Constitution ratified by over 78% of the voters WITH high sunni turn out.

Alito nominated, strong constructionist and the democrats don't have the votes to stop him.

DeLay gets a new judge, not some biased liberal hack that gave money to moveon.org and kerry and dnc.

Pentagon releases proof that 1.8 TONS of previously unknown enriched yellow cake uranium removed from Iraq last year.

On and on and on. This is NOT how the libs wanted to end this year. They have NO reason to be happy about next year. 8)

710 posted on 11/08/2005 6:15:25 PM PST by Allen H (Liberalism; where facts & reality are whatever you want them to be. A sad ACLU,for a better America!)
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To: impatient

The Future of Virginia


711 posted on 11/08/2005 6:15:26 PM PST by impatient (clichéd dissenting republican)
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To: DrDeb

My prediction was consistently with Bush around 300-310 EVs.

At some points I was even giving him PA and OR, and some other states I can't remember, bumping that number around 330 EVs.


712 posted on 11/08/2005 6:15:28 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: Steve0113
IMO, Kaine will be the last Democrat governor of Virginia for a while. They have nobody in the wings and it looks like Republicans are winning the other statewide races. Kaine will govern as a liberal and have people so pissed off at him by 2009 that Republicans will sweep, unless Mark Warner is VP by then.

This election is all on Jerry Kilgore. He came out of the box going negative on Kaine before he had even defined himself to the voters. He refused to sign the No Tax Pledge. He resigned as AG without accomplishing anything he could use to justify run for Governor. He came across as just another ambitious and negative politician with no vision, while Kaine actually looked like the more sincere candidate.

713 posted on 11/08/2005 6:15:37 PM PST by Dems_R_Losers (The Kerry/Lehane/Wilson/Grunwald/Cooper plot to destroy Karl Rove has failed!)
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To: HitmanNY
I think he would lose if the election was today, though.

Hard to say. He probably would have his act together better if he were actually running. It would also depend on who his opponent was.

There is no doubt W is in a weaker position today than he was one year ago. These races reflect that to a small degree IMHO.

If W were still in the upper 40s, Kilgore probably wins. Since he is hovering right around 40% (my best estimate) the base is discouraged and stayed at home. We have some work to do before next November or else it will not be a pretty evening.

714 posted on 11/08/2005 6:15:48 PM PST by comebacknewt
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To: RoseofTexas

Kilgore was not a very strong candidate and the GOP did not provide the kind of support they could have.


715 posted on 11/08/2005 6:16:05 PM PST by kabar
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To: Fee
Redstate.org: Update [2005-11-8 21:10:20 by Dales]: I have two different turnout models going. Both are starting to converge to the same result-- but are still very different. One has Kilgore getting 49.8% of the two-party vote, and one has Kilgore getting 48.9%. Both have Kaine winning, but it is still too soon to call.
716 posted on 11/08/2005 6:16:09 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: DrDeb; HitmanNY; oceanview
He and oceanview were predicting President Bush defeat all year long in 2004 as well as all the doom and gloom people you find right now on this thread.
717 posted on 11/08/2005 6:16:11 PM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: faithincowboys

I'm gonna hold my breath...and wait


718 posted on 11/08/2005 6:16:31 PM PST by VA40
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To: Soul Seeker

well this conservative is enthused. All my like minded friends are as well. There is too much indoctrination here, that is all...


719 posted on 11/08/2005 6:16:40 PM PST by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: Flux Capacitor

52-44 with 33% reporting? Not over by any means, although the odds are in the Democrats' favor there...


720 posted on 11/08/2005 6:16:48 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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